What Are the Units of Electric Flux?

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The discussion revolves around the units of electric flux and the distinction between electric flux and electric flux density. Participants explore various definitions and interpretations of these concepts, referencing Gauss's law and the relationship between electric fields and charge.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that electric flux can be expressed as the integral of the electric field over an area, suggesting units of "V-m" (volts times meters).
  • Another participant argues that electric flux density, which is related to electric displacement, has units of Coulombs per meter squared, indicating a distinction between electric flux and electric flux density.
  • A later reply states that both definitions of electric flux are correct but emphasizes that electric flux density is another name for electric displacement.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the official unit of electric flux, asking whether it is volt-meters, coulombs, or something else.
  • Another participant mentions that there is no universally accepted unit for electric flux and highlights that flux is sometimes defined as the surface integral of electric flux density in certain references.
  • One participant insists that electric flux is simply the number of coulombs of charge, while electric flux density is defined as Coulombs per meter squared.
  • There is a challenge regarding the units of electric flux density, with a participant questioning the assertion that it has units of V/m.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the official unit of electric flux, with multiple competing views on the definitions and relationships between electric flux and electric flux density remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding terminology and definitions, particularly concerning the relationship between electric flux and electric flux density, as well as their respective units. The discussion highlights the complexity and variability in how these concepts are presented in different sources.

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Hi all,

What is the unit of electric flux? I know this is an easy question, but I've seen different units.
In the following, I use the integral form of Gauss's law: \oint E\cdot dA=\frac{Q}{\epsilon_0}

1. Many physics book and parts of Wikipedia vaguely say that the integral on the left side represents the "electric flux", and thus it has units of "electric field" or "electric flux density" (V/m) multiplied by units of area (m^2), which results in "V-m". No problem.

2. When I look deeper, I see that this is apparently incorrect: E is the "electric field strength" while \epsilon_0\times E=D is the "electric flux density"; hence, "electric flux density" has units of Coulombs/meter^2.

Personally, I like the latter explanation, but which one is officially correct?
If it's the first one, then is the second one wrong?
If it's the second one, then why is it so hard to specifically find a website that gives the units of electric flux instead of flux density?

Thanks!
 
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Let's compare electric field with magnetic field. While we talk about magnetic field, we have a unit B, called "magnetic induction" OR "the density of the flux of magnetic induction". Actually, it is the same thing:

B - magnetic induction;
(B, dS) - elementary flux of magnetic induction;
(B, dS)/dS = B - the density of the flux of magnetic induction OR just magnetic induction.

The same is when we talk about the electricity.
D - electric induction OR electric induction flux density.

Sorry, I must go to university,... I will end this post when I come back.
 
Both of formulas are correct. The problem is just that electric flux density is other name of electric displacement.
 
Thank you for the replies.

I still don't understand the answer, though. I know this is a technicality, but there is only one official unit for electric flux, and so my question is what that unit is. Is it volt-meters, coulombs, or something else?

Thanks!
 
There is no accepted unit of flux that I have seen. Normally, we take the electric flux to be the surface integral of the electric field, and you would be hard pressed to find a differing convention. But, on a few occasions (like in the CRC Handbook it turns out), flux is sometimes taken as the surface integral of the electric flux density. The latter maybe a more useful definition since it will always result in the total enclosed charge for a closed surface, regardless of the background permittivity. But since we so often work with a homogeneous volume when computing a closed surface flux, the ratio of charge to epsilon is often taken too.
 
As I said above, electric flux and electric flux density (electric displacement) are different parameter. Therefore, they have different units.

"electric field" or "electric flux density"
Can you tell me an article shows that electric flux density's unit is V/m? Because D = epsilon * E ==> D(unit) >< E(unit)

I think you are confused with the name of D.
 
There is no need to complicate matters.
Electric Flux = # of Coulombs of charge or "C" for coulombs.

Electric Flux density is the C/m2 or Coulombs per meter sq.

These are all in SI units.
 

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