What beat frequency will the observer detect?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the beat frequency detected by an observer from two trains emitting whistles at 282 Hz, with one train at rest and the other traveling away at 45 km/h. The initial attempt yielded an incorrect frequency of 544 Hz due to a misunderstanding of the formula. Correct calculations using the listener behind formula showed that the frequency from the stationary train remains 282 Hz, while the frequency from the moving train is calculated to be 272 Hz. The resulting beat frequency detected by the observer is 10 Hz, confirming the correct approach. The conversation also hints at further difficulties with intensity problems, indicating ongoing challenges in the topic.
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Homework Statement


Two trains emit whistles of the same frequency, 282 Hz. If one train is at rest and the other is traveling at 45 km/h away from an observer at rest, what beat frequency will the observer detect?



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I used listener behind formula and got an answer of 544 Hz because i doubled the Frequency source. The answer is wrong, please help me!Thanks!
 
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Why don't you show your working out.
 
While i was waiting i looked over it again and this is what i did for another answer i got

F(listener behind)=F(of source) [v/v+v(source)]

I did one for each since there are two trains.
For the train on rest, i did F(listner behind)=282*[343/(343+0)] which is 282 Hz

For the train going 12.5 m/s i did, F(lb)=282*[343/(343+12.5)] and got 272 Hz

So then i subtracted 282-272 and got 10 Hz, is this the answer?
 
That's the one.
 
Thanks! I'm also having major trouble with an intensity problem, can you help me with that? Thanks!
 
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