What do DC magnetic fields do to salt water.

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A DC magnetic field probe submerged in salt water interacts with ions through the Lorentz force, which affects charged particles based on their charge and velocity. Sodium ions, which are not paramagnetic in their ionic form, do not exhibit attraction to the probe, while chloride ions, being diamagnetic, experience repulsion. The interaction is transient due to the pulsed nature of the magnetic field, and modeling these effects in a fluid with both positive and negative ions presents complexities. This discussion clarifies the misconceptions regarding the magnetic properties of sodium ions and their molecular counterparts.

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  • Understanding of Lorentz force and its application in electromagnetic fields
  • Knowledge of ionic properties, specifically paramagnetism and diamagnetism
  • Familiarity with the behavior of ions in aqueous solutions
  • Basic principles of pulsed magnetic fields and their effects on charged particles
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  • Study the magnetic properties of different ions, focusing on sodium and chloride
  • Explore the effects of pulsed magnetic fields on ionic solutions
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What effect does a DC magnetic field probe have when submerged in salt water ?

i.e. There is not an electrode..just a plastic insulator with calcium ions pulsing through it giving off a magnetic pulse submerged in salt water.

Sodium ions are paramagnetic, so would these be attracted to the probe ?
What about the chloride ions, these are diamagnetic..would the be repelled by the probe ?
 
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rogerharris said:
What effect does a DC magnetic field probe have when submerged in salt water ?

i.e. There is not an electrode..just a plastic insulator with calcium ions pulsing through it giving off a magnetic pulse submerged in salt water.

Sodium ions are paramagnetic, so would these be attracted to the probe ?
What about the chloride ions, these are diamagnetic..would the be repelled by the probe ?

Ummm ... what makes you think that sodium ions are paramagnetic? They have a closed shell .. basically a neon atom with an extra proton and neutron.

Anyway, any charged particle will feel a force from the magnetic field ... they will tend to bend around the magnetic field lines due to the Lorentz force: \vec{F}=q\left(\vec{E} + \vec{v}\times\vec{B}\right). Since it is a pulsed field, that force will be time-dependent, and so any induced motions of the ions will be transient. I suppose if you got the field magnitude up and ran a pulse train through it, then this could be a bizarre way to heat up salt water. I think it would be pretty complicated to model though, given that it is happening in a fluid with both positive and negative ions present.\times
 
SpectraCat said:
Ummm ... what makes you think that sodium ions are paramagnetic? They have a closed shell .. basically a neon atom with an extra proton and neutron.

my mistake ..it is the sodium molecule that wiki says is paramagnetic, not the ion.
 

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