What do 'nerdy' guys like in girls?

[Proton Soup]

Hatfield & all, 1966:

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~elaineh/13.pdf

this is an older study, but the conclusions are nevertheless interesting.

It basically concludes that the only strong predictor of the desire to date again after a initial date is physical attractiveness. (other factors considered where intelligence, personality, self acceptance).

yeah, i haven't decided if i want to invest in reading it all, but it would have been nice if they had supplied a set of curves based on the data to compare to the theoretical curves in fig. 1.

 

[GeorginaS]

Let's stereotype , for the fun of it. Artists are anything but: down to Earth & responsible.

Why would you want to do that? For the fun of it?

 

[MotoH]

Why would you want to do that? For the fun of it?

Because its spot on for every artist I know.

 

[GeorginaS]

Why would you want to do that? For the fun of it?

Because its spot on for every artist I know.

Hrm. I'll have to think about that.

 

[DanP]

Why would you want to do that? For the fun of it?

Yeah, playing with stereotypes is funny. The thing is , while they are simplified conceptions of groups(and hence useless to infer anything about an individual) , many (but not all) hold true. Ill let the statement OP (and you) decide if this one holds any water

 

[Pinu7]

Because its spot on for every artist I know.

Usually stereotyping is wrong, but this is so true.

 

[BobG]

yeah, i haven't decided if i want to invest in reading it all, but it would have been nice if they had supplied a set of curves based on the data to compare to the theoretical curves in fig. 1.

I prefer girls that come supplied with a set of curves, too.

I think it must be related to my interest in math.

 

[Proton Soup]

I prefer girls that come supplied with a set of curves, too.

I think it must be related to my interest in math.

0.7 waist-to-hips ratio ftw

 

[Lancelot59]

0.7 waist-to-hips ratio ftw

I laughed at that.

 

[DanP]

I prefer girls that come supplied with a set of curves, too.

I prefer women who fancy jumping in bed with me.

 

[MotoH]

I prefer women who fancy jumping in bed with me.

Girls don't fancy guys who say fancy.

. . .Wait shiiii

 

[DanP]

Girls don't fancy guys who say fancy.

. . .Wait shiiii

O god, we are both in deep poo then :P

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Girls don't fancy guys who say fancy.

. . .Wait shiiii

I think plenty like Eddie Izzard. He says "fancy" and wears womens clothes even.

 

[clustro]

This isn't a "checklist"...just some rough guidelines:

1. Smart (okay this is a checkmark no dummies allowed in my 2-person treehouse.)
2. Ambitious - knows what she wants, and will not settle for less.
3. Interested in science, and stuff other than science.
4. Down to earth; not stuck up.
5. Isn't clingy... I mean... being a little clingy is expected from women... but if she's being clingy to the point of aggravation (like herpes), she probably has self-esteem issues.
6. Appreciates the simpler, finer things in life (like some Chinese food and an ice-cold diet mountain dew -_-).
7. Morally upright.
8. Socially libertarian, economically conservative.
9. Not a stone-cold fox (though that's always nice ), but takes care of her body - has a healthy weight and eating habits, doesn't drink in excess, exercises regularly, and doesn't smoke.
10. Can take of herself. (A girl that can double as a shooting buddy... :!))

 

[whybother]

(kind of sad the last time I posted here was ages ago and still in this same discussion)

I don't think it needs to be such a long check list. What *most* guys want, nerdy or otherwise, is pretty simple:
-Beauty
-Brains
-Great sense of humour/ability to make fun of themselves

(the order changes with level of nerdiness)

Point in case: http://individual.utoronto.ca/sck/stpday.html"

 

[Proton Soup]

mmm... love guinness

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyyixjR5vq1qz7lxdo1_500.jpg

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

mmm... love guinness

Definitely.

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[DanP]

mmm... love guinness

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Beers are good, but I pretty much prefer an ice cold vodka, straight from the freezer. No rocks.

 

[DanP]

This isn't a "checklist"...just some rough guidelines:

1. Smart (okay this is a checkmark no dummies allowed in my 2-person treehouse.)
2. Ambitious - knows what she wants, and will not settle for less.
3. Interested in science, and stuff other than science.
4. Down to earth; not stuck up.
5. Isn't clingy... I mean... being a little clingy is expected from women... but if she's being clingy to the point of aggravation (like herpes), she probably has self-esteem issues.
6. Appreciates the simpler, finer things in life (like some Chinese food and an ice-cold diet mountain dew -_-).
7. Morally upright.
8. Socially libertarian, economically conservative.
9. Not a stone-cold fox (though that's always nice ), but takes care of her body - has a healthy weight and eating habits, doesn't drink in excess, exercises regularly, and doesn't smoke.
10. Can take of herself. (A girl that can double as a shooting buddy... :!))

O my god

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Beers are good, but I pretty much prefer an ice cold vodka, straight from the freezer. No rocks.

A woman who drinks straight vodka may be a little too much for me... wait... now that I think of it I think I did date a girl who drank straight vodka. She was fun.

 

[DaveC426913]

... being a little clingy is expected from women...

 

[Lancelot59]

Ditto.

 

[turbo]

I didn't care if a girl shared my interests in science. If she enjoyed live and recorded music (especially rock and blues), and my tastes in poetry and literature, we could get along. If she shared my interests in food, baking, sauce-making, etc., we could sort out the remaining differences.

In college, I was infatuated for a while with a young lady that had suffered a breakdown and returned to school a year later. She was a dedicated and competent (though not talented) folk musician. Very pretty, and way too fragile and high-maintenance for a new engineering student to handle.

 

[clustro]

O my god

What? What's wrong with what I said? :/

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

What? What's wrong with what I said? :/

I think it was this...

ice-cold diet mountain dew

 

[DanP]

What? What's wrong with what I said? :/

Nothing. Except you want so many things that even reading the list was painful

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Nothing. Except you want so many things that even reading the list was painful

Yeah that too.




Current: Plunkster - Biblecode Sundays

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Read, think, then type.

Read, note that this is the internet, then type. ;-)

I have three drunk post credits in the bank by the way.
Happy Paddy's ****ers.

 

[DanP]

Reading comes hard to some people, but with practice you'll get the hang of it eventually.

Look at the first sentence I wrote.

"This isn't a "checklist"...just some rough guidelines:"

Read, think, then type.

 

[DanP]

Yeah that too.




Current: Plunkster - Biblecode Sundays

Makes me want to grab an Jameson.

 

[Dembadon]

Nothing. Except you want so many things that even reading the list was painful

Reading comes hard to some people, but with practice you'll get the hang of it eventually.

Look at the first sentence I wrote.

"This isn't a "checklist"...just some rough guidelines:"

Read, think, then type.

Your belittling attitude is repugnant and unnecessary.

DanP called your post a list, not a checklist. How ironic that you attempt to take him to task for not reading your post! The post to which DanP is referring is clearly a list. I don't see how you can call it anything else.

 

[clustro]

Your belittling attitude is repugnant and unnecessary.

DanP called your post a list, not a checklist. How ironic that you attempt to take him to task for not reading your post! The post to which DanP is referring is clearly a list. I don't see how you can call it anything else.

I don't really give a rat's rear end what you think, sir.

 

[Proton Soup]

I don't really give a rat's rear end what you think, sir.

there's nothing wrong with your list, but it does sound like you want a girl with a lot of traditionally male traits.

 

[clustro]

there's nothing wrong with your list, but it does sound like you want a girl with a lot of traditionally male traits.

On what do you base that claim?

 

[Proton Soup]

On what do you base that claim?

it's not one thing, so much as the whole, but primarily i'd say items 5, 8, and 10, and perhaps 2.

 

[DaveC426913]

I don't really give a rat's rear end what you think, sir.

Clustro, you should consider whether this is the right forum for you. While people have taken issue with the list you posted, they are attacking the argument, not the arguer. You, on the other hand are growing increasingly insulting of the people rather than taking issue with the argument.

That is strictly against forum rules - which you agreed to when you registered. If it continues, measures will be taken.

Foul or hostile language will not be tolerated on Physics Forums. This includes profanity, obscenity, or obvious indecent language; direct personal attacks or insults; snide remarks or phrases that appear to be an attempt to "put down" another member; and other indirect attacks on a member's character or motives.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=5374

 

[Lancelot59]

If it continues, measures will be taken.

Dun dun DAAAAAAAAH!

Although I will say he has a point. I get turned off by 'girly girls', but there is a certain limit that I find acceptable.

 

[clustro]

Clustro, you should consider whether this is the right forum for you. While people have taken issue with the list you posted, they are attacking the argument, not the arguer. You, on the other hand are growing increasingly insulting of the people rather than taking issue with the argument.

That is strictly against forum rules - which you agreed to when you registered. If it continues, measures will be taken.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=5374

What "argument" did I even make in my post? Its a list of qualities I find attractive in women; its not up for debate, discussion, suggestion, or refinement. The original poster asked a question, and I answered it.

Yeah, I get mad about this kind of stuff easily. I don't appreciate being talked-down to, like I am some naive moron, by random people on the internet. I knew people were going to give me grief if I made a huge Total Recall-esque "dream list", so that why I clearly stated in the first line of the post that the list was a rough guideline.

Of course, it would be more fun to ignore that line and pretend I was saying something I wasn't, so some people chose to ignore that line and misrepresent what I said. Obviously the mature thing to do. I don't even know why I bothered to post - obvious trolls have trolled.

EDIT: Proton Soup, the only one I can kind of agree with is being socially libertarian and economically conservative. Women like to spend :/. However, I have met many women with the aforementioned qualities (though not all qualities at once, unfortunately).

 

[Lancelot59]

Women like to spend :/

Now THAT is a fact. Not to say that most of the women I know like to ditch their cash, they just like to get new stuff, which in turn burns money.

One of the reasons why I really avoid girly girls, they're typically very materialistic.

 

[DaveC426913]

What "argument" did I even make in my post?

An argument is simply a particular term for statements. It's a common terminology.

If you like, it can be restated as 'attack the statements not the stater'.

 

[CleffedUp]

I always had to ask the nerdy guys out myself. I would just go up to them and ask "where are you taking me Friday night?" It always worked. You will find that nerdy guys will answer a direct question.

Herein lies the answer. Nerds are people too, with varied tastes, but the common denominator is the ability to be so fiercely absorbed in something else as to completely overlook the subtle nuances of human interaction. Don't wink, don't flirt, don't plan to be in the right place at the right time; if these are noticed at all, they're easily explainable by other phenomena. Get to the point.

What's great about Evo's particular phrasing is that it's not an indirect request that can be explained away (e.g. "I want to see this movie, but don't have anyone to go with." "What about your roommate?"), and it's not a direct request that can be thoughtlessly mishandled (e.g. "Wanna go out some time?" "You talking to me? You mean, like, on a date?"). Instead, it's a direct request that requires parsing. Received spontaneously, it's curious and engaging, requiring thought power, which will most assuredly lead him to the exact desired interpretation.

It's perfect.

 

[DanP]

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[DaveC426913]

Nothing It's more fascinating than a man who draws his own self-portrait after a discussion in which he never was attacked in any way whatsoever by anyone. No one considered you naive. Not until now.

Dan, Clustro's ad hominem diatribe as already been deleted as inappropriate. Let's let this die rather than dragging out the bickering. It would be a shame if a thread of 34 pages and counting got locked.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

An argument is simply a particular term for statements. It's a common terminology.

If you like, it can be restated as 'attack the statements not the stater'.

While I think that he overreacted I can see where a person could take it personally when someone "attacks" the particular characteristics they find pleasing in a mate.

 

[Char. Limit]

1*10^5 views, here we come, right?

SPEAKING of characteristics people find pleasing in a mate...

How high do you all rate looks, personality, intelligence, and emotional stability?

Put the four in order, if you would.

 

[DanP]

Dan, Clustro's ad hominem diatribe as already been deleted as inappropriate. Let's let this die rather than dragging out the bickering. It would be a shame if a thread of 34 pages and counting got locked.

I, agree, it's a nice thread. I deleted the inappropriate content.

 

[DanP]

1*10^5 views, here we come, right?

SPEAKING of characteristics people find pleasing in a mate...

How high do you all rate looks, personality, intelligence, and emotional stability?

Put the four in order, if you would.

Emotional stability is pretty much contained in personality. It is basically neuroticism in the "five factor model" of personality.

 

[Lancelot59]

While I think that he overreacted I can see where a person could take it personally when someone "attacks" the particular characteristics they find pleasing in a mate.

I agree, it's essentially just saying "your values are stupid".

 

[Kajahtava]

1*10^5 views, here we come, right?

SPEAKING of characteristics people find pleasing in a mate...

How high do you all rate looks, personality, intelligence, and emotional stability?

Put the four in order, if you would.

Personality > looks > intelligence > emotional stability.

In fact, I think emotional instability is cute, I like people that get angry a lot and are cute when they are angry. Also, intelligence is just extremely vague, I value open-mindedness over intelligence. Or rather, I value the property of people that they don't start defending aggressively dogmata they only have because they were simply raised to believe them and realize that moral is relative.

Also, I like a bit of self-reflexion and awareness of the world around them, I like it when people realize they make a self fulfilling prophecy, I like it when people realize that if their friends gossip about another friend, surely they must gossip about them too if they aren't there?

Also, subtlety.

 

[MotoH]

When she kills you in your sleep for not taking the dishes out of the dishwasher, you will wish you put emotional stability at the top of the list.