What do 'nerdy' guys like in girls?

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The discussion centers around the qualities that 'nerdy' boys find attractive in girls, with participants sharing their experiences and preferences. Many express that intelligence, a sense of humor, and kindness are key traits they admire. There's a consensus that nerdy guys often appreciate directness and are more likely to respond positively when approached by girls. Some participants mention that physical appearance becomes less important compared to personality traits as intelligence increases. A recurring theme is the desire for mutual interests, with some emphasizing the importance of ambition and open-mindedness. The conversation also touches on the challenges nerdy boys face in dating due to shyness and social skills, with advice suggesting that girls should show interest and engage in conversations about shared interests. Overall, the thread highlights a blend of humor and earnestness in exploring what nerdy boys seek in potential partners.
  • #751
cbetanco said:
Well, I am not married yet... But I have to set high standards for the girls of my dreams!

Yes, so did I... and I found her! :smile:
Then it turned out that she was not interested in me. :frown:
 
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  • #752
Well at least you've got spirit!
 
  • #753
some of the descriptions in this thread sounds like a shopping list lol...

personally I just want someone I can be comfortable living with day to day in the long term
 
  • #754
wukunlin said:
some of the descriptions in this thread sounds like a shopping list lol...
People just want their rough draft of their Santa's list proofread.
 
  • #755
DaveC426913 said:
The word 'girl' on a physics forum is surely a lighthouse beacon to dating site ad placers. :wink:

:smile:
 
  • #756
I agree.
 
  • #757
I have also graduated from a Science High School. As I seen how my nerdy boy classmates chose, they also opt for women that have the same intelligence as theirs.
 
  • #758
I'm a girl, so take this with a grain of salt.
I've dated nerds before, but their shyness and awkwardness with girls goes from cute and endearing to f****** exhausting.
then I met my love, the biggest dork the world has ever seen. after dying inside little by little from being "just friends" I DECIDED to get over my I'm-not-smart-enough-for-him complex and grow a pair; I looked at him dead in the eye and said "I want u so bad I can't take it anymore. I want a kiss from u and then I want to find out what ur hands can do. I'm f****** inlove with u". it went VERY well and we've been together and crazy inlove since.
so I can't agree more with everyone who has said before me to approach him. as always in these situations, just be honest about ur feelings and relaxed about it.
sorry for my english, I'm not a native speaker.
hope this helps! cheers everyone!
 
  • #759
uy! forgot a tip!
I have noticed that men in general, science dorks in particular and don't get me started on engineers, work better in binary. so when flirting or asking them out, ask questions so that they can only answer YES or NO. otherwise they get nervous and babble. cute little things haha. better yet, just state instead of asking, something like "hi! I want to take u out, show u a good time! I want to hear all about what interests u".
nobody takes friendliness in a bad way.
 
  • #760
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  • #761
First I'm don't consider my self Nerdy, but actually i have liked this post...

There may be some extremist posts on what "nerdy" guys want in girls, particularly focusing to quality that girl have to be
atheist or at least agnostic

Well, I do not agree that this quality conflicts with intelligence, simple because not all religions/philosophies have same concept of "GOD"... probably most of east Asian communities have different view of "GOD" than Cristian/Muslim/Jews definition and possible more "science friendly", research Hinduism or Buddhism if you have interest.

I will extend little this and go back to original topic: see "GOD" as variable, if you exclude it from daily life, probably every one will be cheater, lier or bully. You may see it incompatible but it is necessary to maintain some balance in society... without some kind of discipline why i would not lie to someone for my own benefits?!

It just happens that money, also invented by man, have similar effect... just remembered something funny, imagine the day we will have some device that corrects our genetic code or our cells, and most research done in medicine will be dead then, the knowledge that doctors had will not serve then, it just how some Artificial intelligence may replace our thinking capabilities...

Back on topic:
Nerdy people like understating girls, who understand how important is to view a comet passing by every 500 years, rather than going shopping for Gucci handbag in some shop promotion.

Nerdy people like when girls that have some interest of their area of knowledge, if you ask how big is Cannis Majoris, he will explain with passion.

Nerdy people like girls who will not make fun of them, of make them fell embarrassed in front of others.

Nerdy people like girls who can express themselves clear, and logical.

Nerdy people may like girls who dress simple or elegant rather than too sexy (this one is subjective).

Usually nerdy people don't like to use insults when communicating... so try not use, f*** or s*** words.

Usually nerdy people take relationships very serious, therefore they may not like girls who prefer short term relationships.

Nerdy people like girls who have some kind of vision of their future, like having scientific project or research.

Nerdy people don't like girls who only are there to have fun and no interest at all to learn or obtain knowledge, they prefer type who are "hungry for knowledge".

Nerdy people don't like girls that call them nerdy, it alienates them.

I personally like girls with long black hair :-p
 
  • #762
ihatesnakes said:
"I want u so bad I can't take it anymore. I want a kiss from u and then I want to find out what ur hands can do. I'm f****** inlove with u". it went VERY well and we've been together and crazy inlove since.

*faints* I think my pair is very small because I cannot imagine myself doing this. -_- I've had some crushes before but the thought of doing this makes me feel like drinking a spoon of castor oil. Maybe this is why nerdy guys usually hook up with non nerdy girls:-p
 
  • #763
ihatesnakes said:
I have noticed that men in general, science dorks in particular and don't get me started on engineers, work better in binary. so when flirting or asking them out, ask questions so that they can only answer YES or NO.
that is probably true in my case. when asked an opened ended question,
I don't want to give a short straight answer because some people find that cold and indifferent.
I don't want to drag out my answer for too long because some people can be very impatient.
I also have to find the middle ground quickly or some people think I don't feel like talking to them.
 
  • #764
wukunlin said:
that is probably true in my case. when asked an opened ended question,
I don't want to give a short straight answer because some people find that cold and indifferent.
I don't want to drag out my answer for too long because some people can be very impatient.
I also have to find the middle ground quickly or some people think I don't feel like talking to them.
The trick is to answer in such a way as to engage the other person. Answer in a way that encourages them to talk as well. That way you have a dialogue.
 
  • #765
hey ihatesnakes I might try out the Binary theory. I'm female and a planetary science graduate but also a musician. I really like this guy who's also into Physics, I do find it hot in a guy!. I am hungry for science knowledge and I do get excited when talking about Physics, Astronomy etc. so I guess I'm looking for good conversation.
 
  • #766
Loess: do you have black long hair? i want be in line too... joking!

Yes, you definitely should engage in conversation, and i believe it will be easy for you since you have interest on his area of knowledge.

Remember all us are different in some way, and since you are musician, best first to know what type of music he likes, and not try to enforce your type of music but create atmosphere where he create interest on it.

By the way: happy new year to all
 
  • #767
Finally found time to read this thread aloud to several family members including a former nerd married to a former nerdette. When they finish drying the tears of laughter from their eyes I'll share some of their comments.

Nerdy guys really like hot women but not overtly hot - understated hot. The type you can sit down with and discuss quantum theory when you both know that there are other things you'd much rather be doing. A nerdy guy is confident of his intellect but not in his ability to attract a drop dead gorgeous girl so a girl looking for a date with a nerdy guy doesn't need to kill herself to look fantastic and hot because nerds are not stupid and will probably figure that the really gorgeous girl has an ulterior motive for wanting to go out with them so 8 out of 10 on the good looking scale is fine. You can always bump up your appearance later when you know each other better. Think of the pleasant surprise when the nerdy guy you're going out with on a regular basis suddenly sees you at your hot (no not suggestively hot) - and gorgeous best for some very special occasion.

Nerdy guys really like a girl who will talk to them and show interest in them. They aren't that hard to get a date with unless you are a real "woofer" to quote our resident nerd guy. The nerdette says the secret is to find a current nerd who is in the process of evolving into a really hot guy but has no clue women find him attractive since they never did before. She says when you find one of these, grab him and carry a big stick to run off the other girls trying to grab him.

Nerd hunting girls also need to make sure the nerd they have targeted is not one who has to feed his own ego by dating someone he thinks is not as intelligent as he is. These are not worth your time. A true nerd is really turned on by an intelligent, fun, confident woman who let's him know just how much she appreciates him for what he is and for what he can become. There is nothing more flattering that having a person REALLY listen to you, pay attention to what you say and truly enjoy your company. This is important to all guys but more so for nerds because they don't get a lot of female hero worship during their younger years. But be careful initially, take things slowly and make sure you really really like the guy before he falls for you

Happy nerd hunting.
 
  • #768
Thanks for the feedback netgypsy and hindus. It's kind of hit and miss with this guy. I think I'm going to go on the theory that he knows where I am and if he wants me he just has to let me know.
 
  • #769
Hey well things did develop with the guy, they did for one night only, he couldn't get enough of me and then dropped me like a hot potato. It all happened too quickly. Unfortunately this guy has a high traditional intelligence but is somewhat lacking in emotional intelligence. Its strange how intelligence can be strongly skewed to one side.
 
  • #770
Better that he do it that quickly than string you on. Remember the warning about nerdy guys who have to constantly feed their ego? Sounds like you found one. The chase is fun and once caught, no more chase, no fun. This is not a guy you want to waste time on.

Also a bit higher number than average of the very intelligent don't think they have to play by the rules if they don't deem the rules reasonable so watch out for this type also.

Real men, nerdy or not, know that women are human and showing respect and interest in any person is what you do when you care. I'm still gagging over Stephen Hawking comments about women. If you read the replies you will see that many many men know exactly what a woman wants, that it isn't "rocket science" to expect respect and genuine interest, and that men who want a partnership with a woman will have no problems finding one who will have his back forever, if so desired.

Nerdy guys/girls who want something to worship need to find a religion. If they want a really fun partner, companion and all the benefits that go with it, find a smart, funny, hot, kind, strong woman/man. Someone who knows your potential even when you don't. The journey's too short to spend it with someone not worthy of you.
 
  • #771
Thanks netgypsy, your response is much appreciated. It's funny I liked him initially because he was geeky and I thought he might be pretty useless with women. i kind of thought it was sweet and endearing and he might appreciate me. You are completely right if he doesn't recognise my potential he's not worth knowing. He was a bit 'old before his time' and a bit negative anyway haha, his loss. Thanks again!
 
  • #772
Sometime what you see IS what you get - useless with women hahaha
 
  • #773
This topic is polluted by a monogamistic bias... Nerds are very romantic... :biggrin:
They spend too much time on rationalizations... Love is so mysterious that we could be engaged in very unprobable relations... You can love something in a girl and quite the opposite in another at the same time...
I don't know if it's wise or crazy but I love everything in women... I have no criticism at all about them and no preference of any kind... The only thing to save in mankind... The crux is the fragile alchemy you can achieve with your girl (or girls :biggrin:), not her hypothetical nature...
 
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  • #774
you sound like you are interested in many things Loess, so like you said: his loss! you have a great attitude, good for you.

fiiine Dave, I won’t cuss, sorry about that. I spend too much time with fishermen and sailors. I didn’t insult or direct the cussing at anyone though, and some people on this thread have been pretty mean talking about others. oh wait! they used big educated words so it’s alright. and about sexual words being obscene, I don’t quite get that. I will however comply with the PF rules and I apologize again. specially for the spelling cause I have to admit, I hadn't read the rules.

anyways, I asked my dork of a boyfriend the question of the thread, but our conversation got cut off so more will follow. so far here’s his input, for all you girls who, like me, have a thing for nerds:

HIM: intelligence

ME: please sir, do elaborate

HIM: well…I was once at a friend’s birthday and someone introduced me to a very cute girl. she was sweet, polite, had a masters’…

ME: hey! I don’t have a masters’. If that’s a requisite for you, how come I got a free pass?

HIM: shhh. be quiet woman! do you want me to tell you the story or not?

ME: zzzip

HIM: we spent all day talking, and I was crushing on her more and more, trying my hardest to work up the courage to ask her on a date. but then we got on the subject of the differences between grad school and undergrad and I mentioned my home state, and she said “oh! yeah, I’ve heard of it. where is it exactly?”. needless to say I lost all interest in her the next second, cause I can’t date a girl with a masters’ who can’t find every single state of the U.S. on a map. I would always be thinking she’s a moron. that’s what I mean by intelligent: being well-rounded according to the resources you have, someone who can hold a conversation on a large array of topics, etc.

ME: what else?

HIM: physical attractiveness

ME: duh!

HIM: I’ve always had a thing for dark curly hair. other than that, the usual; not too fat, not too skinny

ME: describe your ideal beautiful woman

HIM: a cross between Shakira and Ariel, from the little mermaid. with the personality of Lisa Simpson

ME: geez, every guy I grew up with still has a crush on Ariel too

HIM: that was one awesome seashell bra. she’s the princess Leia of our generation

ME: keep going, but be specific. think also of things your friends have said, since they’re all nerdy as well

HIM: I’ll tell you what I, and I imagine guys like me would say too, don’t like in girls: makeup, rudeness, loudness, obnoxiousness. I could not date a religious girl cause I’m an atheist and I would be thinking in the back of my head she might as well be a tarot card reader. I CAN NOT deal with high maintenance personalities, material or emotional. shy girls catch my attention.

ME: oye! so let me get this straight: I only have an undergrad in biology. I have black curly hair, but your ideal woman does not. I wear makeup if I go dancing, I’m loud, always high on coffee so I’m sure I’m obnoxious all day, I can’t shake off the catholic thing cause it’s been drilled into my head. and about shyness, do you remember how I proclaimed my love for you?(that’s on a post a while back)

HIM: do you remember how I reacted?

ME: yes. You stared blankly at me and continued talking about your paper

HIM: yeah, cause it was impertinent and awkward

ME: I still don’t get that concept, awkward. there’s no word for it in spanish. but anyway, what the hell do you like about me then? why are you with me?

HIM: I’m a physics PhD student! I’ve been doing experiments since I was a kid!

:smile: yes jaja, I fell off my chair dying laughing :!):!):!)
 
  • #775
Too many nerds don't see women as people. Guys who are the most successful with women just really like them. (nazarbaz are you sure you haven't been reading John D, McDonald??) These guys can be "homely", poor and not particularly great physical specimens but they are generally well groomed, polite, funny, likeable, cute and respectful but strong in spirit. Like dogs and cats, women know a good guy when they meet one. If they have good sense they grab him. Only women with issues like TRUE bad boys. But a woman does appreciate a guy who can smack down a mugger if he grabs her purse and runs with it. That is, if she hasn't already done so. hahaha

Great dialogue - thanks. Nerds really like hot girls by the way and the degree of stupidity they will tolerate is proportional to the heat factor so if you're dumb you'd better be scorching hot or forget dating a nerd. (The same is true for nerdettes too - the guy better be really really hot if he's not too bright)
 
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  • #776
oh wow netgypsy, what you said about it being the same as dogs. never thought about falling inlove like that before but it's the way to explain it that makes the most sense to me!
 
  • #777
netgypsy said:
Like dogs and cats, women know a good guy when they meet one.

ihatesnakes said:
...being the same as dogs...
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

: Hunts desperately around for FlexGunship's "I'm Outta Here" pic :
 
  • #778
Ah! There it is!

rafale_test.jpg
 
  • #779
awkward - makes you feel uncomfortable, you don't know how to respond in an awkward situation.

love and attraction are very intuitive. The man, woman, just makes you feel good. I bet it's a dopamine response.

Cats love to climb into the laps of people who dislike them and are afraid of them but true cat people know when a cat likes them, and most do. Dogs sense kindness, strength and confidence - marks of a good alpha leader.
 
  • #780
Our ladies in the family had to weigh in on the PhD nerd's comments on "no makeup". This is the biggest load of manure they say they're ever heard. You look at all the women nerds date and 99% of them wear makeup. No they don't like it put on with a palate knife but no matter how great a woman looks, a little makeup will make her look even better.

And you'll also hear them say "We like our women natural" HOGWASH They like their women to look good and natural is not particularly good. How about a missing front tooth guys.

So ladies - forget this bunch of garbage these guys SAY they like and wear an appropriate amount of makeup for the occasion and fix what needs to be fixed so you LOOK natural and good at the same time. (And don't tell me that guys in the US at least actually LIKE that mustache their girlfriend has if she's dumb enough not to get rid of it)
 
  • #781
What astonishes me about this entire thread is how people here are able to speak for all nerds.

For example: "...look at all the women nerds date and 99% of them wear makeup".

Are there weekly meetings of nerds where we all gather and come to a unanimous consensus about what all nerds like? Do we have business cards that identify the official nerds from the rest of society?

I am only a white belt nerd, so humbly, I can only speak for my own tastes and actions.

:approve:
 
  • #782
Several of our ladies are very old and have degrees in nerdy fields so spent numerous hours listening to nerds in engineering and physics study lounges. They say nothing has changed since they were in school a million years ago. The no makeup and look natural thing is pretty much male in general but nerds tend to be a bit more emphatic about it. Ignore it ladies. Nerds like good looking women who LOOK natural and not made up, not those that really ARE natural and not made up. (Of course we are excluding those men and women who are born gorgeous SIGH)

And of course there are exceptions thank goodness. One of our older male nerds has always told his lady nerd that what ever she chooses to wear, whatever makeup, hair color, always looks great. VERY smart man.
 
  • #783
netgypsy said:
awkward - makes you feel uncomfortable, you don't know how to respond in an awkward situation.

thanks netgypsy. I know it's synonyms, but there seems to be an additional shade to it I don't quite grasp. for example, I understand an awkward situation, but when people describe a person as being awkward, I think I get the right mental picture but I'm not sure. yeah, off topic, I'll eventually get it some day.
 
  • #784
sorry sorry for not quoteing right
 
  • #785
netgypsy said:
Too many nerds don't see women as people. Guys who are the most successful with women just really like them. (nazarbaz are you sure you haven't been reading John D, McDonald??) These guys can be "homely", poor and not particularly great physical specimens but they are generally well groomed, polite, funny, likeable, cute and respectful but strong in spirit. Like dogs and cats, women know a good guy when they meet one. If they have good sense they grab him. Only women with issues like TRUE bad boys. But a woman does appreciate a guy who can smack down a mugger if he grabs her purse and runs with it. That is, if she hasn't already done so. hahaha

Great dialogue - thanks. Nerds really like hot girls by the way and the degree of stupidity they will tolerate is proportional to the heat factor so if you're dumb you'd better be scorching hot or forget dating a nerd. (The same is true for nerdettes too - the guy better be really really hot if he's not too bright)
Never heard of him... I live in Paris and my english is still improving...
I find a bit odd the emphasis on "good looking girls"... Most vomen are beautiful if you know how and when looking at them... Maybe it's a talent though... I lived most of my aesthetical climax moments with girls who aren't so pretty according to normal standards... Some are still haunting me to the extent that I feel the need to draw or paint them sometimes, even if I'm not that good at it...
Women's are beautiful... End of line...
 
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  • #786
An awkward person is physically or socially clumsy. They lack confidence. They say the wrong thing at the wrong time. A lot of nerds are socially awkward, in many cases because they really don't try. And many don't try because they think they won't be successful so why bother. Most do grow out of it.

Our nerdy old couple will tell you neither would have dated the other in high school (NOOO WAYY) but by the senior year in college both had morphed into very different people. So awkward is generally temporary. Thank goodness.
 
  • #787
nazarbaz said:
I find a bit odd the emphasis on "good looking girls"... Most vomen are beautiful if you know how and when looking at them... Maybe it's a talent though... I lived most of my aesthetical climax moments with girls who aren't so pretty according to normal standards... Some are still haunting me to the extent that I feel the need to draw or paint them sometimes, even if I'm not that good at it...
Women's are beautiful... End of line...

A friend of mine once said:

If you tell a girl she's pretty, even if she isn't, the smile on her face will make her so.

:smile:
 
  • #788
DaveC426913 said:
A friend of mine once said:

If you tell a girl she's pretty, even if she isn't, the smile on her face will make her so.

:smile:

John D. McDonald writes action adventure books that are fairly easy to read and entertaining. The hero really likes women but the ones he falls in love with are generally killed in the book, so he can have another romantic encounter in the next book. He would say something like the quote.

Anyone heard the story of the 10 cow wife (it might have been 12)??

A young man was very much in love with a young woman who was fairly ordinary in appearance. He went to her father to ask for her hand in marriage. The father thought he'd be lucky to get two cows in dowry for her as there were many other women in their village who were much prettier. Imagine his surprise when the young man offered 10 cows for her. The father was astonished but of course he agreed and they were happily married. Five years later the story teller went to see the young man who had become very wealthy and wide loved and respected. He was greeted at the door by a beautiful self confidant young woman. Yes it was the rather plain young woman he had married. When a man thinks the woman he loves and who loves him is beautiful, that's what she becomes.

But remember that when a young woman takes the time and effort to look nice for someone special and he reciprocates, it is telling both that they are important enough to look their best for. This is what "nice looking" means - worth going to the trouble to look nice for. And in a marriage, when either spouse stops doing this they are sending a message that they are either too exhausted and stressed out or they don't care any more. Either way the other partner needs to find out what's happening and fix it.
 
  • #789
The most precious beauty is the one we reveal...
 
  • #790
nazarbaz said:
The most precious beauty is the one we reveal...

As turns out this is not always true, as evidenced by my probation officer and this ankle bracelet.
 
  • #791
DaveC426913 said:
As turns out this is not always true, as evidenced by my probation officer and this ankle bracelet.

That's cute... For me, there is no such things as an ugly girl or a hierarchy of beauties... Of course, this is the last thing I can say to a woman...
Sometimes when it's very early in the morning, and you got to the bottom of a good bottle of wine after a very good night, something happens in the face and body of a woman that is indescribable... When you don't know if she's smiling or crying while she's looking strait at you... That's the only moment I let my judgment talk...
 
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  • #792
so my love got back to me on the subject. we talked about minimum standards, dealbreakers and such when you're 1st getting to know someone. I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with the xkcd comics. he said since he saw this one:

convincing.png


when he liked a girl or managed to get a date he would always ask them
"do you label your axes?"
 
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  • #793
I don't remember, but he says he also asked me if I label my axes at one point, and I responded something like "yes I do. I can be pretty stupid when it comes to graphs, so labeling the axes conforts me since it's the easiest part about plotting".

he says I ended up passing his test not so much for answering yes, but because I didn't seem to find his random question weird. this is a guy who is a stereotypical nerd when it comes to girls, so he's a bit paranoid about women finding him weird. once again, just being relaxed will do wonders.

cheers!
 
  • #794
You posted the image correctly; there is a spurious forward slash in the actual URL, preventing the image from showing.

convincing.png


Here is the URL to the comic page, where you can pick up the obligatory rollover text:

And if you labeled your axes, I could tell exactly how MUCH better.
 
  • #795
thanks Dave, you lifesaver you
 
  • #796
LOVE it
 
  • #797
I doubt it can be safely generalized. Personally I am kind of vain and want someone who is beautiful.
 
  • #798
You're right and wrong about the generalizations. Each guy/girl has different taste in what is attractive. But there are generalities that hold true for all relationships. Anyone can be beautiful/good looking. (Stupid is forever.) The alarm bells ring when a guy or girl knows that their SO appreciates good looks a lot yet they still go around looking like a bum all the time, anywhere and everywhere.

Most of my nerdy male friends prefer hot over beautiful.
 
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  • #799
This thread made my day, and killed time while I was sitting my my gen Ed classs (waste of time). For me although I like girls who I can spend time with and hold a good conversation or in general have a good time. The girl may be hot but if there's nothing in her head, I won't be able to stand her for a very long time which translate over to a few seconds.
 
  • #800
I agree with Shaikhob that the person needs to have something in their head. People have different types of intelligence, some may have not done the 'time' working towards a degree, masters etc. I hope I'm not defined just by my qualifications. My ex boyfriend going back some years is an accomplished musician in two instruments, he doesn't have a degree . I respect him for his talents, hard work and his potential. I'm signing up for an astrophysics masters this year. I'm not sure he understands why I love planetary sciences but I think he still respected me for my hard work.
 
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