What do we feel when we say something is hot ?

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The discussion explores the concept of what is felt when something is described as "hot," focusing on the relationship between temperature, kinetic energy, and sensory perception. It encompasses theoretical explanations, sensory biology, and the effects of material properties on heat perception.

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  • One participant notes that temperature is related to the average kinetic energy of particles, suggesting that increased vibrations correspond to increased heat perception.
  • Another participant elaborates that temperature relates to average energy per state rather than per particle, highlighting differences between monatomic and diatomic gases in energy storage.
  • A participant discusses the role of thermal conductivity in heat perception, explaining that materials like metal and wood can feel differently at the same temperature due to their conductive properties.
  • It is mentioned that the human skin has different thermoreceptors that respond to warm and cool temperatures, with specific thresholds for activation and saturation, affecting the perception of heat.
  • Another point raised is that extremely high temperatures can cause cell damage, which triggers a sensory response involving nociceptors, contributing to the perception of pain.

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Participants express varying views on the mechanisms of heat perception, with some agreeing on the role of kinetic energy and thermoreceptors, while others introduce additional factors such as material properties and biological responses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete understanding of heat perception.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of temperature and heat, the complexity of sensory responses, and the influence of material properties on heat perception. These factors are not fully resolved within the conversation.

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What do we feel when we say something is "hot"?

So recently I had learned that temperature is just the average kinetic energy in the system, the more KE in the system particles the higher the temperature, KE is mv^2/2 meaning that temperature is just really the average of how much the particles in the system are vibrating, now this makes me wonder, what exactly do we feel when we say something is hot, is it just the vibrations of the particles that we feel and when these vibrations get larger we say something is geting hotter?
 
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examorph said:
So recently I had learned that temperature is just the average kinetic energy in the system, the more KE in the system particles the higher the temperature, KE is mv^2/2 meaning that temperature is just really the average of how much the particles in the system are vibrating, now this makes me wonder, what exactly do we feel when we say something is hot, is it just the vibrations of the particles that we feel and when these vibrations get larger we say something is geting hotter?

Yes, but...

The temperature relates to the average energy per state, rather than the average energy per particle. A monatomic gas only has three states for holding energy, its movements in the three dimensions. A diatomic gas has those three plus two rotational states, so each particle can hold more total energy at the same temperature.

How hot something feels to the hand also has a lot to do with conductivity. If you touch a metal bar at 50C that will feel pretty hot; touching a block of wood at 60C will be a lot more comfortable. This is because you only have to absorb a small amount of heat from the surface of the wood for that surface to become a lot cooler. The conductivity of the metal keeps replenishing the surface heat from deeper in the bar as fast as your hand can conduct it away.
 


examorph said:
is it just the vibrations of the particles that we feel and when these vibrations get larger we say something is geting hotter?
Yes and no.

You have two kinds of thermoreceptors in your skin. One set responds to warm temperatures, those above 77°F or so. These warmth sensors are quiet for temperatures below this threshold. Another set responds to cooler temperatures, those below 70°F or so. Both kinds of thermoreceptors saturate. The warmth sensors don't detect burning hot as any warmer that just plain hot. They saturate well below temperatures that do damage.

The heat you detect as painfully hot results from a dual firing of your warmth thermoreceptors firing at max and a different set of somatic sensors. Extremely high temperatures cause cell damage. These damaged cells leak chemicals, and this leakage does (at least) two things. It kicks your immune system into overdrive so as to repair the damage, and it triggers a sensory response in yet a different kind of somatic sensors, the nociceptors (colloquially, pain sensors).
 

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