What does it mean that a wave packet has an uncertainty

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The discussion revolves around the concept of uncertainty in wave packets, specifically the interpretation of the uncertainty represented by the equation deltaX = delta/2^(1/2). Participants explore the meaning of the parameters involved and the context of the wave packet's mathematical representation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of delta in the equation deltaX = delta/2^(1/2) and its relation to the standard deviation of the observable X for a particle.
  • One participant suggests that delta may represent a parameter of a function describing the shape of the wave packet, possibly a Gaussian function.
  • Another participant confirms that delta is a constant characteristic of the wave packet and is proportional to the width of the Gaussian wave packet, indicating it measures position uncertainty.
  • A participant proposes a method to calculate the standard deviation for the given wave packet state using the expression for variance.
  • It is noted that the calculation simplifies in this case since the expectation value is zero, leading to a focus on finding .

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of delta as a measure of position uncertainty related to the wave packet's width, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specific definitions and calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the mathematical form of the wave packet and its parameters, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and implications of the terms used in the context of uncertainty.

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What exactly does it mean that a wave packet has an uncertainty deltaX = delta/2^(1/2)? I thought deltaX represented the standard deviation of the observable X for that particle but what does delta mean by itselt on the right-hand side?
 
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ehrenfest said:
What exactly does it mean that a wave packet has an uncertainty deltaX = delta/2^(1/2)? I thought deltaX represented the standard deviation of the observable X for that particle but what does delta mean by itselt on the right-hand side?

It would be nice if you could explain the context in which you saw this formula. My guess is that the shape of the wave packet was expressed through some function (e.g., a gaussian) and delta was a parameter of this function. Is it true?
Eugene.
 
I'm sorry. You're right. The equation of the wave packet is

\psi(x',0) = e^{i p_0 x'/\hbar}\frac{e^{-x'^2/2\Delta^2}}{(\pi\Delta)^{1/4}}.

So delta just represents some constant, characteristic of a given wave packet?
 
ehrenfest said:
I'm sorry. You're right. The equation of the wave packet is

\psi(x',0) = e^{i p_0 x'/\hbar}\frac{e^{-x'^2/2\Delta^2}}{(\pi\Delta)^{1/4}}.

So delta just represents some constant, characteristic of a given wave packet?

That's right. Parameter delta is proportional to the width of the Gaussian wave packet. Thus delta is a measure of the position uncertainty in this particular case.

Eugene.
 
ehrenfest said:
I thought deltaX represented the standard deviation of the observable X for that particle

yeah, it does. and you can calculate that quantity in the case of the state you have given. i.e., calculate
<br /> \sqrt{&lt;\psi|(x-&lt;\psi|x|\psi&gt;)^2|\psi&gt;}<br />

for the \psi(x) you have given and my guess is that you will arrive at the result you want.
 
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...indeed, it's quite easy for your case since <x>=0. you just need to find \sqrt{&lt;x^2&gt;}
 

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