B What does the multiplication between two units mean?

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Multiplication of units can be less intuitive than division, which clearly represents rates like velocity. While division describes a relationship of change between quantities, multiplication can be understood as applying one quantity to another, often represented through integrals that reflect area under a graph. For instance, in shipping, costs can be calculated using units like ton-miles, which can be converted to kilogram-meters for clarity. Examples like torque illustrate how different combinations of units can yield consistent results, regardless of the specific measurements used. Understanding these relationships enhances comprehension of physical concepts and their applications in real-world scenarios.
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It seems like division between two units is a simple intuitive concept to grasp, such as velocity, for every interval of time, a particle travels a certain distance. However, I've always had trouble trying to find an intuitive sense for multiplication between two units, e.g. what exactly does kg*m in the unit Newton intuitively mean?
 
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It's ##kg \cdot \frac{m}{s^2}## and means an accelerated ##1 \, kg## mass.
There isn't always an intuitive concept, e.g. units of some constants are sometimes pretty non-intuitive.
On the other hand ##m^2## or ##m^3## can be grasped naturally.

As you've said, division means "per". Multiplication perhaps can be thought of "applied to".
 
Ehden said:
It seems like division between two units is a simple intuitive concept to grasp, such as velocity, for every interval of time, a particle travels a certain distance.
Division of two physical quantities is a mathematical description of rate of change of one quantity w.r.t. the other. For example, m/s gives rate of change of displacement with respect to time, which we call as velocity. Division of physical quantities can be described using the derivative form i.e. v=dx/dt or a=dv/dt etc.
Multiplication of two physical quantities can be described using the integral form. It gives the area under the graph relating the two quantities.
e.g. s=∫v⋅dt or for constant v, s=vt. This gives the area bounded by v-t graph in a particular time interval.
 
If we observe that one quantity increases proportionally to quantity A and increases proportionally to quantity B, then we might make a model which looks like:
C = A * B
If A is in kg and B is in m, then it's natural to assign C the units of kg*m.
 
Khashishi said:
If A is in kg and B is in m, then it's natural to assign C the units of kg*m.
To make this concrete, consider a railroad in the shipping business. They charge $0.04 per ton mile

If you want to ship one ton 1000 miles, it will cost you $40.00
If you want to ship 100 tons 100 miles, it will cost you $400.00

To quote dollars per kilogram meter instead of dollars per ton mile they have to convert.

A meter is about 0.00062 miles. A kg is about 0.0011 U.S. short tons. A kilogram meter is about 0.00062 * 0.0011 = 0.000000682 ton miles.

Accordingly, the price quoted by this railroad should be about $0.000000027 per kilogram meter.
 
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Also - torque is a good example, the units are Force * Distance.

So a 10KG weight at the end of a 1M lever generates the same torque as 1 KG at the end of a 10M lever. Like seaSaws and balances.

Actually - look at area or volume. we prefer to use the same units, Like M*M - but you can say M * inches ( and upset some people) but it is still an area.
 
Windadct said:
Actually - look at area or volume. we prefer to use the same units, Like M*M - but you can say M * inches ...

And there are even a few situations in which it is more convenient not to use the same units. For example, in America commercial volumes of water are often measured in acre-feet - one acre-foot is the volume of water that will cover one acre one foot deep, or one-half-acre two feet deep, or ...
If you're considering how much water you need to irrigate a field of a given size, the acre-foot is a the most convenient unit.
 
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