What does this two momentum transform look like?

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The discussion focuses on the transformation of momentum between Cartesian coordinates (qi) and generalized coordinates (Qi). Participants emphasize that momentum transforms as a vector under coordinate changes, referencing vector transformations such as rotations and shifts to different coordinate systems. A question arises about whether the transformation is a "contact transformation," but this is deemed unrelated to the main topic. A suggestion is made to consult a graduate-level classical mechanics textbook, specifically Walter Greiner's work, for a detailed explanation of canonical transformations. The conversation concludes with a participant expressing understanding after reviewing the recommended material.
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qi is the cartesian coordinate, and Qi is the Generalized coordinate, why the momentum under the two coordinates have this transformation way:
pi=∑Pj(∂Qj/∂qj)
pi and Pi are corresponding momentum under the two coordinate respectively.
 
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Hi rtransformation. Welcome to the forum.

This is how vectors transform under a coordinate transformation. You need to study vector transformations. For example, rotations, changes to spherical or cylindrical coordinates, etc.

So the reason that momentum transforms this way is that it is a vector.
 
DEvens said:
Hi rtransformation. Welcome to the forum.

This is how vectors transform under a coordinate transformation. You need to study vector transformations. For example, rotations, changes to spherical or cylindrical coordinates, etc.

So the reason that momentum transforms this way is that it is a vector.
Thank you! I really need to study some basic knowledge now...Thank you again.
 
DEvens said:
Hi rtransformation. Welcome to the forum.

This is how vectors transform under a coordinate transformation. You need to study vector transformations. For example, rotations, changes to spherical or cylindrical coordinates, etc.

So the reason that momentum transforms this way is that it is a vector.
actually, I didn't find the relation between the vector transformation and my question, could you please be more specific and help me solve this problem?Thank you very much.
Is this transformation a contact transformation?
 
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rtransformation said:
actually, I didn't find the relation between the vector transformation and my question, could you please be more specific and help me solve this problem?Thank you very much.
Is this transformation a contact transformation?

I have no idea if it is a "contact transformation." I looked up "contact transformation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_geometry

It was fun, but seemed to be somewhat far afield from your question.

What sort of answer would satisfy you? This is how a vector transforms under a coordinate change. It is part of the definition of a vector.
 
DEvens said:
I have no idea if it is a "contact transformation." I looked up "contact transformation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_geometry

It was fun, but seemed to be somewhat far afield from your question.

What sort of answer would satisfy you? This is how a vector transforms under a coordinate change. It is part of the definition of a vector.

I just want to know how I can get this result through derivation.:frown:
 
I would suggest looking at a graduate level classical mechanics book in a chapter on canonical transformations.
 
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MisterX said:
I would suggest looking at a graduate level classical mechanics book in a chapter on canonical transformations.
Thank you, I now get it.
 
rtransformation said:
Thank you, I now get it.
I'm not sure I do though. Would you mind posting your explanation for the curious reader?
 
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MisterX said:
I'm not sure I do though. Would you mind posting your explanation for the curious reader?
I found it in the Walter Greiner‘s famous classical mechanics book “Classical Mechanics——Systems of Particles and Hamiltonian Dynamics” ,Chapter 19——Canonical Transformation,and what I asked is the point transformation which is discussed in detail in this book.
 
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