What forces causes the top book to accelerate horizontally?

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The problem involves a small textbook resting on a larger textbook, with a horizontal force applied to the bottom book, causing both to accelerate together. The question focuses on understanding the forces acting on the top book that enable it to accelerate horizontally without slipping.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the role of inertia and static friction in the motion of the top book, questioning the necessity of an applied force for the perceived backward motion. There is exploration of the concept of relative motion between the two books.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts related to inertia and the absence of external forces acting on the top book. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of motion relative to different frames of reference.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the definitions and roles of forces in this scenario, particularly in relation to the textbooks used for learning physics and the clarity of their explanations.

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Homework Statement


A small textbook is resting on a larger textbook on a horizontal desktop. You apply a horizontal force to the bottom book and both books accelerate together. The top book does not slip on the lower book. What forces causes the top book to accelerate horizontally?

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The Attempt at a Solution


The answer in the solutions manual says that the top book's inertia makes it want to move backwards. There is a force of static friction acting to prevent this attempted motion. It acts opposite the direction of attempted motion, forwards. So, the top book accelerates with the bottom book and doesn't slip.

But, I'm confused because, doesn't there need to be an applied force on an object for there to be attempted motion at all? There's no applied force acting on the top book that would explain it's attempted backwards motion. Do you always need an applied force to state that an object is attempting motion? Is there a fictitious force involved? This is a stupid question, but I'm just confused
 
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Any backwards motion of the top book is only relative to the bottom book. Inertia gives it a tendency to remain still in the frame of reference of the room that it is in.
 
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Charles Link said:
Any backwards motion of the top book is only relative to the bottom book. Inertia gives it a tendency to remain still in the frame of reference of the room that it is in. With physics concepts, you are likely to find some authors have more precise and more accurate explanations than others.
So there's no external force acting on the book causing it to move backwards relative to the bottom book?
 
Balsam said:
So there's no external force acting on the book causing it to move backwards relative to the bottom book?
That is correct. In learning physics, I think most of the textbooks are first-rate, but it is important to make sure that your textbook has good explanations with sufficient attention to detail. I think you will find some books to be better than others.
 
Charles Link said:
That is correct. In learning physics, I think most of the textbooks are first-rate, but it is important to make sure that your textbook has good explanations with sufficient attention to detail. I think you will find some books to be better than others.
I just use the textbook that the class uses
 
Balsam said:
I just use the textbook that the class uses
Most of the time, that is sufficient.
 

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