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I solved a DE for an electrical circuit where the input was a step input.
\[
\mathcal{U}(t) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } t <0\\
V, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
\]
So the solved DE for \(t > 0\) is
\[
q(t) = VC + Ae^{\frac{-R}{C}t}.
\]
  1. How do I find the time constant?
  2. Also, \(q(t)\) is the charge. How can I go from \(q(t)\) to the current with respect to time?
 
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If the circuit is a series $RC$ circuit, then I don't buy your solution. Can you post the circuit? To get from charge to current, you simply use the definition of current:
$$i= \frac{dq}{dt}.$$
Incidentally, electrical engineers solve circuits for $i$, and almost never bother with charge, because current is so much easier to measure in a lab.
 
Ackbach said:
If the circuit is a series $RC$ circuit, then I don't buy your solution. Can you post the circuit? To get from charge to current, you simply use the definition of current:
$$i= \frac{dq}{dt}.$$
Incidentally, electrical engineers solve circuits for $i$, and almost never bother with charge, because current is so much easier to measure in a lab.

The circuit is \(\mathcal{U}(t) = iR + \frac{1}{C}\int i(t)dt\)
 
dwsmith said:
The circuit is \(\mathcal{U}(t) = iR + \frac{1}{C}\int i(t)dt\)

So, differentiating once yields
\begin{align*}
0&=R \frac{di}{dt}+\frac{i}{C} \\
R \frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{i}{C} \\
\frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{1}{RC} \, i.
\end{align*}
What is the solution to this DE?
 
Ackbach said:
So, differentiating once yields
\begin{align*}
0&=R \frac{di}{dt}+\frac{i}{C} \\
R \frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{i}{C} \\
\frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{1}{RC} \, i.
\end{align*}
What is the solution to this DE?

So that is trivial to solve. One question then. Do we always differentiate the DE to begin with after it is written?
 
dwsmith said:
So that is trivial to solve. One question then. Do we always differentiate the DE to begin with after it is written?

If you want to solve for $i$, then yes, essentially you differentiate once to get the DE in terms of $i$. You can do this if you have inductors in the circuit as well.

Now if some bozo (typically a physics professor like myself) wants to see the charge, you can just integrate the current and find the right integration constant.
 
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