What is Stochastic Overflow? | Carl Sagan

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of "stochastic overflow" as mentioned by Carl Sagan in his book "The Demon-Haunted World." Participants explore its implications in physics, particularly in relation to phenomena that might allow for extraordinary events, such as a car passing through a wall.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant references Sagan's discussion of stochastic overflow in relation to a hypothetical scenario where a car could travel through a wall.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the context in which the term "stochastic overflow" was used in Sagan's work.
  • A participant cites that the average waiting time for such a stochastic event is much longer than the age of the Universe, suggesting that while improbable, it is theoretically possible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications or interpretations of stochastic overflow, and the discussion remains exploratory with varying levels of understanding and context provided.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the speculative nature of the concept, with references to the age of the Universe and the improbability of the events described, but does not resolve the underlying assumptions or definitions of stochastic overflow.

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In his book "The Demon-Haunted World" Carl Sagan talks about this, I wonder what kind of physics phenom is that.

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Can you provide some context in which that term was used?
 
In the book, he was talking about the possibility that a car can travel by itself through a wall an the appear on the street , and though this is possible, it requires a stochastic overflow condition, which is larger the age of the universe.
 
chapter 17 : The average waiting time per stochastic ooze is much longer than the age of the Universe since the Big Bang. But, however improbable, in principle it might
happen tomorrow.
 

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