What is the acceleration and tension in this two-block system?

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The discussion revolves around a two-block system involving pulleys, where participants are attempting to determine the acceleration of each block and the tension in the cable. The problem is situated within the context of classical mechanics, specifically focusing on dynamics and forces acting on the blocks.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the treatment of pulleys as massless and surfaces as frictionless. There are attempts to apply Newton's laws and free body diagrams to analyze the forces acting on each block. Questions arise regarding the correct representation of forces and the relationship between the accelerations of the two blocks.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and guidance on identifying forces and applying Newton's laws. There is a recognition of the need for clarity in variable representation and the implications of the system's constraints. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between the accelerations of the blocks.

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Participants note the importance of correctly defining the weights of the blocks and the tension in the cable. There is a focus on ensuring consistent notation and understanding the implications of the system's configuration on the accelerations involved.

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The two blocks shown in the figure are initially at rest. Despise the masses of the pulleys and the friction between different parts of the system. Get (a) the acceleration of each block and (b) the tension in cable.

Answer:
(a) aA = 2,56 m/s^2; aB = 1,28 m/s^2
(b) 677 N
 

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Apprentice123 said:
The two blocks shown in the figure are initially at rest. Despise the masses of the pulleys and the friction between different parts of the system. Get (a) the acceleration of each block and (b) the tension in cable.

Answer:
(a) aA = 2,56 m/s^2; aB = 1,28 m/s^2
(b) 677 N

People can't help you unless you post your attempted solutions. It's a place where people help you on homework, not do your homework for you.
 
kNYsJakE said:
People can't help you unless you post your attempted solutions. It's a place where people help you on homework, not do your homework for you.

I'm not asking you to resolve. I would like an explanation of the exercise
 
Apprentice123 said:
Despise the masses of the pulleys and the friction between different parts of the system.
I presume that you are to treat the pulleys as massless and the surfaces as frictionless.
Apprentice123 said:
I would like an explanation of the exercise
What don't you understand?

Hints: Identify the forces acting on each mass. (Draw a free body diagram for each.) Apply Newton's laws to each mass.
 
Doc Al said:
I presume that you are to treat the pulleys as massless and the surfaces as frictionless.

What don't you understand?

Hints: Identify the forces acting on each mass. (Draw a free body diagram for each.) Apply Newton's laws to each mass.

My solution (not find the answer)

Block A

ZFx = m.a
T1 - Psin(30) = mA . aA


Block B
zFy = m.a
-P + T1 + T2 = mB . aB

And:
T2 = 2T1
2aB = aA


Solving the system. I find:
aA = 1,14 m/s^2
aB = 0,57 m/s^2
T2 = 1097,92 N
 
Apprentice123 said:
Block A

ZFx = m.a
T1 - Psin(30) = mA . aA
OK, I presume P is the weight of block A. Better to use mAg instead of P.

Block B
zFy = m.a
-P + T1 + T2 = mB . aB
Don't use the same symbol, P, to represent the weight of block B. Also, since the pulleys are massless and frictionless, the rope has a single tension throughout. Just call it T. So what's the total upward force on block B?

And:
T2 = 2T1
See comments above.
2aB = aA
Be careful with signs. If block A moves up the incline, block B must move down.
 
Doc Al said:
OK, I presume P is the weight of block A. Better to use mAg instead of P.


Don't use the same symbol, P, to represent the weight of block B. Also, since the pulleys are massless and frictionless, the rope has a single tension throughout. Just call it T. So what's the total upward force on block B?


See comments above.

Be careful with signs. If block A moves up the incline, block B must move down.

Block A

ZFx = mA . aA
T - mA . g . sin(30) = mA . aA


Block B

ZFy = mB . aB
-mB.g + 2T = mB . aB


aA = - 2aB


New is correct thank you very much
 
I find:

Block A
T - Psin(30) = 90,72aA

Block B
-2T + P = 158,7aB


How can I relate aA and aB ?
 
Apprentice123 said:
How can I relate aA and aB ?
See your last post:
Apprentice123 said:
aA = - 2aB
 
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Doc Al said:
See your last post:

Thanks.
if I had two pulleys in B the accelerations were aA = -4aB ?
 
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Apprentice123 said:
if I had two pulleys in B the accelerations were aA = -4aB ?
It would depend on how they are arranged.
 

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