What is the acute angle at $P$ where lines $(AG)$ and $(HB)$ intersect?

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The discussion revolves around the geometric properties of a solid figure ABCDEFGH, specifically focusing on the calculations involving vectors, dot products, and the acute angle at the intersection point P of lines AG and HB. Participants explore various mathematical aspects including vector calculations, orthogonality, and volume determination.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents the coordinates of points A and B, calculates the vector $\vec{AB}$, and computes its magnitude, raising the question of correctness in the calculations.
  • Post 2 questions a potential typo in the dot product calculation of vectors $\vec{AD}$ and $\vec{AE}$, seeking confirmation of the result.
  • Post 3 calculates the dot products $\vec{AB}\cdot\vec{AD}$ and $\vec{AB}\cdot\vec{AE}$, concluding that both vectors are orthogonal to $\vec{AB}$.
  • Post 4 discusses finding the coordinates of point H by subtracting vector $\vec{AB}$ from the coordinates of G, asking for validation of this approach.
  • Post 5 reiterates the calculation for point H and expresses agreement with the previous response.
  • Post 6 introduces the acute angle at point P formed by lines AG and HB, providing a calculation for this angle using the cosine inverse function.

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Participants generally agree on the calculations related to the orthogonality of vectors and the method for finding point H. However, there is no consensus on the acute angle at point P, as it is presented as a calculation rather than an established fact.

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Some calculations depend on the accuracy of earlier vector definitions and assumptions about the geometric relationships between points. The discussion does not resolve whether the angle calculation is definitive.

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The following diagram show a solid figure ABCDEFGH. Each of the six faces is a parallelogram
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The coordinates of A and B are A(7,−3,−5),B(17,2,5)

$\vec{AB} = \langle 17-7, 2+3, 5+5 \rangle = \langle 10, 5, 10 \rangle$

$|AB|= \begin{align*} \sqrt{ (17 - 7)^2 + [2 - (-3)]^2 + [5 -(-5)]^2} \end{align*}=15$

The following information is given

$\vec{AD}=\left[ \begin{array}{c} -6 \\ 6 \\3 \end{array} \right]$ , $|AD|=9$ , $\vec{AE}=\left[ \begin{array}{c} -2 \\ -4 \\4 \end{array} \right]$ , $|AE|=6$

I assume the following is Dot product
$A\cdot B = a_{1}b_{1}+a_{2}b_{2}+a_{3}b_{3}$

Calculate $A\cdot B$

$-6\cdot -2+6\cdot -4+3\cdot 4=0$

thus $A\perp B$

more ? to come just seeing if this is correct:D
 
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It looks as though you have calculated (with a typo, but the correct result):

$$\overrightarrow{AD}\cdot\overrightarrow{AE}=0$$

Is this correct?
 
(ii) Calculate $\vec{AB}\cdot\vec{AD}$

$\left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]\cdot
\left[ \begin{array}{c} -6 \\ 6 \\ 3 \end{array} \right]$

$10(-6)+5(6)+10(3)=0$
(iii) Calculate $\vec{AB}\cdot\vec{AE}$
$\left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]\cdot
\left[ \begin{array}{c} -2 \\ -4 \\ 4 \end{array} \right]$

$10(-2)+5(-4)+10(4)=0$

$\vec{AB}\perp \vec{AD}$ and $\vec{AB}\perp \vec{AE}$ since dot products $= 0$

(c) Calculate the volume of the solid $ABCDEFGH$

since $|\vec{AB}|=15$, $|\vec{AD}|=9$, $|\vec{AE}|=6$ then $V=(15)(9)(6)=810$ units$^2$
 
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(d) The coordinates of $G$ are $(9, 4, 12)$ Find the coordinates of $H$

Since $\vec{AB} = \left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]$

then can we take G and subtract $\vec{AB}$ from it get $H$

$\left[ \begin{array}{c} 9 \\ 4 \\ 12 \end{array} \right]-\left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]=\left[ \begin{array}{c} -1 \\ -1 \\ 2 \end{array} \right]$

there is one more question to this but want to see if so far is correct...
 
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(d) The coordinates of $G$ are $(9, 4, 12)$ Find the coordinates of $H$

Since $\vec{AB} = \left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]$

then can we take G and subtract $\vec{AB}$ from it get $H$

$\left[ \begin{array}{c} 9 \\ 4 \\ 12 \end{array} \right]-\left[ \begin{array}{c} 10 \\ 5 \\ 10 \end{array} \right]=\left[ \begin{array}{c} -1 \\ -1 \\ 2 \end{array} \right]$

there is one more question to this but want to see if so far is correct...

I agree with this answer :)
 
(d) The lines $(AG)$ and $(HB)$ intersect at $P$
and given that
$\vec{AG}=\left[ \begin{array}{c} 2 \\ 7 \\ 17 \end{array} \right]$
find the acute angle at $P$




$\vec{HB}=(-1,-1,2) + (17,2,5) = (16,1,7)$ and $|AG|=3\sqrt{38}$

then

$COS^{-1}\left(\frac{\vec{AG}\cdot\vec{HB}}{(3\sqrt{38})^2}\right) \approx 62.38^o$
 

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