What is the average velocity of the train during this run?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average velocity of a train moving in different directions over a specified time. The train travels at a constant speed of 60 miles per hour, covering distances in three segments: eastward, northeastward, and westward. Participants clarify that average velocity is determined by the resultant displacement vector divided by the total time in minutes, which requires converting speed to miles per minute. The importance of considering both magnitude and direction in vector calculations is emphasized, with suggestions to express the average velocity in component form. The final calculation involves finding the magnitude of the resultant vector and dividing it by the total time to obtain the average velocity.
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A train moving at an essentially constant speed of 60 miles/hr moves eastward for 40 min, then in a direction 45 degrees east of north for 20 min, and finally westward for 50 min. What is the average velocity of the train during this run?

So average velocity is \frac{\Delta r}{\Delta t}. I am starting at the origin, and have three vectors a , b , and c .

a = 40i
b = (10\sqrt{2}) i + (10\sqrt{2}) j
c = -50i

So the resultant vector would be (10\sqrt{2} - 10)i + (10\sqrt{2})j. So to find the average velocity would I just do \frac{(10\sqrt{2} - 10)^{2}) + (10\sqrt{2})^{2})}{110}

Thanks
 
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The magnitude of the average velocity is the magnitude of that resultant vector. (I think you mistyped your answer.)

Careful about units. Since you have the time in minutes, you are measuring velocity in miles/minute, not the given miles per hour.

The average velocity is a vector: it has both direction (figure out what angle it makes with the x-axis) and magnitude.
 
Yeah I converted 60 miles/hr to 1 mile/min. So your saying that the average velocity is just (10\sqrt{2} - 10)^{2}) + (10\sqrt{2})^{2})? The direction would be \tan^{-1}(\frac{10\sqrt{2}-10}{10\sqrt{2}}) so \theta = 16.3 degrees north of east?

Thanks
 
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No, he is saying that the average velocity is a vector- the displacement vector you calaculated divided by the 110 minutes (in miles per minute of course).

Although Doc Al said "it has both direction (figure out what angle it makes with the x-axis) and magnitude." I don't think you really need to do that. One way to give a vector is to give direction (angle) and magnitude, but component form should be perfectly acceptable.
 
As Halls said, describing the vector in component form is perfectly acceptable. But if you need the magnitude, calculate it properly. If the resultant displacement vector is R_x i + R_y j, then its magnitude is \sqrt(R_x^2 + R_y^2). To find the magnitude of the average velocity, divide by the time.
 
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