What is the black stuff on my LED bicycle light?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a black substance found in LED bicycle lights, described as thick black dried 'ink' or glue. Participants explore the nature of this material and its implications for the components it covers, focusing on the potential internal components and manufacturing processes.

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  • One participant, Ramone, seeks to understand what the black substance is and what component it might be covering in the LED light.
  • Another participant suggests that the black material could be a microcontroller acting as a multivibrator, proposing that a 555 timer could be used to build a similar circuit.
  • A different participant identifies the black substance as epoxy, indicating that it covers a chip connected to the board and mentions the Chip On Board (COB) manufacturing process, noting its cost-effectiveness and reliability issues.

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Participants present differing views on the nature of the black substance and its implications, with no consensus reached on the exact identification or function of the material.

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Participants reference previous discussions and related threads, indicating that the topic has been explored before, but details and conclusions remain unresolved.

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Dear experts, :)

I found a LED bicycle blinking light. The circuit is very small and it has a drop of, what i can only describe as, thick black dried 'ink' or glue or insulating material (as shown in the picture ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/46348930@N03/4257680841/ . I opened up another bigger LED light and it too has something like that. But i cannot see what is inside the black thing. The url again is : http://www.flickr.com/photos/46348930@N03/4257680841/

I a trying to find out what component so small is inside this drop of black glue/insulating matter.

So, could you kindly advise me what could be inside?

Thank you!

Sincerely
Ramone
 
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Its a micro controller of some sort acting as a multivibrator. You could build your own with a 555 timer easily. you might be able to find a number on it if you heat the chip up and have an small knife. good luck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivibrator"
 
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We had a similar thread a month ago. There were some links in that one:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=360893

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But that picture wasn't as good as yours:
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The black stuff is epoxy. Underneath is a chip that has jumper wires to the board. The process is called Chip On Board, or COB. In the past, it was the least expensive means of very high volume manufacture, but it's also one of the least reliable. Water vapor eventually gets in and poisons the chip, leaving you with something that can't be serviced.
 

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