What Is the Breakdown Voltage of the Capacitor Combination?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the breakdown voltage of a capacitor combination, where each capacitor has a breakdown voltage of 15.0 V. The user initially assumes that the voltage across the parallel capacitors is the same and attempts to apply the formula for capacitance in series and parallel configurations. However, mistakes are identified in the calculations, particularly in the equation for equivalent capacitance. Guidance is provided to correct the approach, emphasizing the need to accurately relate charge and voltage for the capacitors involved. The conversation concludes with encouragement to apply the corrected method for a successful solution.
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Each capacitor in the combination shown in Figure P26.49 has a breakdown voltage of 15.0 V. What is the breakdown voltage of the combination?

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I figured that the voltage on the two parallel capacitors on either side must be the same, so both can handle 15V. So I assumed that, since C = Q/V, the amount of charge to the central capacitor would be 3 X 10^-4, but since the whole thing is serial, we have: V = V_1 + V_2 + V_3. How should I go about setting this one up?
 
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What you need to do is work out the capacitance of the combination. What equations do you know that will relate the capacitance to the voltage equation you have written?
 
I can easily determine the entire capicitance of the whole system.
Let C_1 = 20 mu-F, C_2 = 10 mu-F, then
\frac{1}{C} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1}
or C = \frac{4 C_1 C_2}{4C_1 + 2}

We also know the charge of the center capacitor if V = 15, and a serial circuit has all the same charge, so using the highest charge on the center capicitor and the above equation for the entire circuit,

V = \frac{Q}{C} = \frac{Q_c}{\frac{4 C_1 C_2}{4 C_1 + C_2}} = \frac{Q_c(4 C_1 + C2)}{4 C_1 C_2}

that's not it - I plugged in the numbers and it's not correct.
 
Ok I think you have the right idea but you've made a couple of mistakes.

Firstly \frac{1}{C} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1} = \frac{4C_1 + 2}{4 C_1 C_2}

is not correct.

\frac{1}{C_{eff}} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1} = \frac{1}{C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} that should get you started on getting the right fraction.

For the second part like I say you have the correct method. So for the middle capacitor which you have labelled C2, the charge it stores at maximum voltage is:

\Delta V_{max}=\frac{Q}{C_2}\Rightarrow Q = \Delta V_{max}C_2

now substitute Q into the \Delta V_{max}=\frac{Q}{C_{eff}} equation and see how you go from there.
 
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Yes! thanks ever much! :-)
 
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