What is the capacitance of the system between P and Q?

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The problem involves calculating the capacitance of a system consisting of four metallic plates arranged at specific distances from each other. The context is within the subject area of electrostatics, specifically focusing on capacitors and their configurations.

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  • Participants discuss the arrangement of the plates and how they might be connected, considering series and parallel configurations. There are attempts to interpret the diagram and clarify the connections between the plates.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the plate arrangement and how to approach the calculation of capacitance. Some participants have provided insights into the connections and equivalent capacitance, while others are seeking clarification on the diagram and setup.

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There is mention of a diagram that is crucial for understanding the problem, but its specifics are not provided in the text. Participants are also addressing potential confusion regarding the arrangement and connections of the plates.

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Homework Statement


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Four metallic plates each of surface area S are placed at some distance from each other as shown in figure.
Then capacitance of the system between P and Q is

A. ## \frac{ε_0S}{3d} ##

B. ## \frac{ε_0S}{2d} ##

C. ## \frac{3ε_0S}{2d} ##

D. ## \frac{3ε_0S}{d} ##

Homework Equations


Between 2 parallel plate capacitors without dielectric capacitance is given as
$$ C = \frac{ε_0A}{d} $$ where A is surface area of plates and d is distance between them.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know if two plates are in series then equivalent capacitance is ## \frac{1}{C_{eq}}= \frac{1}{C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} ##
If they are in parallel then equivalent C is C1 + C2.
But I don"t know what the system is in diagram.

Post Script: How do I disable the red lines coming on words below? I am using first time computer for posting a problem in PF.
 
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Raghav Gupta said:

Homework Statement


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Four metallic plates each of surface area S are placed at some distance from each other as shown in figure.
Then capacitance of the system between P and Q is

A. ## \frac{ε_0S}{3d} ##

B. ## \frac{ε_0S}{2d} ##

C. ## \frac{3ε_0S}{2d} ##

D. ## \frac{3ε_0S}{d} ##

Homework Equations


Between 2 parallel plate capacitors without dielectric capacitance is given as
$$ C = \frac{ε_0A}{d} $$ where A is surface area of plates and d is distance between them.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know if two plates are in series then equivalent capacitance is ## \frac{1}{C_{eq}}= \frac{1}{C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} ##
If they are in parallel then equivalent C is C1 + C2.
But I don"t know what the system is in diagram.

Post Script: How do I disable the red lines coming on words below? I am using first time computer for posting a problem in PF.

The middle plates can be doubled and connected, it is the same set-up. So it is three capacitors, like in the figure, all having the same plate surface area. How are the ones with 2d distance connected?

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ehild said:
The middle plates can be doubled and connected, it is the same set-up. So it is three capacitors, like in the figure, all having the same plate surface area. How are the ones with 2d distance connected?

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How did you convert my diagram to that? Is there some method?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
How did you convert my diagram to that? Is there some method?
I told you in the previous post. The middle plates can be thought as two plates, connected together by a wire. The arrngement on the left is equivalent with the one on the right: two capacitors, with plates AB and B'C.
Originally, the plates A and B are connected. Do the same on the right ones.
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Okay, the diagram was the important part.
Now, 2d plates are in parallel
So capacitance is adding both 2 capacitances ε0S/d
Then they are in series with d plate
So capacitance is 1/2 of ε0S/d which is ε0S/2d . So option B is correct.
Thanks ehild.
 
You are welcome :smile:
 
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