Stargazing What is the difference between a type IIP and type IIL supernova?

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The discussion centers on the classification of the supernova ASASSN-16fq/SN 2016cok in galaxy M66 as a type IIP supernova, despite it not having reached peak brightness. Observations indicated a blue continuum and prominent P-Cygni features in the optical spectrum, which are characteristic of type IIP supernovae. The classification was supported by cross-correlation with known supernova spectra, matching it with SN 1999em shortly before maximum light. Questions arose regarding how the type IIP designation could be made prior to peak brightness, emphasizing the need for post-maximum observations to differentiate between type IIP and type IIL supernovae. The conclusion suggests that spectral analysis can provide early classification insights.
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Supernova in M66 in Leo, announced 30/5/2016: https://Earth'sky.org/todays-image/supernova-erupts-in-m66

160530 Supernova in M66 in Leo, announced.jpg


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just wish I had a scope that could produce a pic like that
 
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Thanks for the image, but I am a bit confused. According to the Astronomer's Telegram they have already come to the conclusion that it is a type IIP SN even before it has reached peak brightness.
We obtained an optical spectrum (range 350-910 nm) of ASASSN-16fq/SN 2016cok (ATel#9091) on UT May 28.63 2016 with the 2.4-m telescope (+YFOSC) at LiJiang Gaomeigu Station of Yunnan Astronomical Observatories (YNAO). The spectrum is consistent with a type IIP supernova at a few days before the maximum light, showing a blue continuum and prominent P-Cygni features of Balmer lines. Cross-correlation with a library of supernova spectra using the "Supernova Identification" code (SNID; Blondin and Tonry 2007, Ap.J., 666, 1024) shows that it matches with SN 1999em at t = -3 days from the maximum light. After correcting for a redshift of 0.002 for its host galaxy M66, an expansion velocity of about 9000 km/s can be derived from the absorption minimum of Ha line.

Source: http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=9093
In order to determine the difference between a type IIL and a type IIP SN one has to observe the light after it begins to decline. So how are they able to come to the conclusion that it is a type IIP if the SN has not even reached peak brightness yet? :confused:
 
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Thanks for the image, but I am a bit confused. According to the Astronomer's Telegram they have already come to the conclusion that it is a type IIP SN even before it has reached peak brightness.

In order to determine the difference between a type IIL and a type IIP SN one has to observe the light after it begins to decline. So how are they able to come to the conclusion that it is a type IIP if the SN has not even reached peak brightness yet? :confused:

the answer is in the quote you posted.
I personally don't know the different in the spectrum between the two types, presumably they do and that is how they have drawn their conclusionDave
 
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