What is the final temperature for combining aluminum container and water?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the final temperature of a system consisting of an aluminum container, water, and an aluminum shot, focusing on the principles of heat transfer and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy, with attempts to set up equations based on energy gained and lost by the components. Questions arise about the assumptions made regarding final temperature and whether to equate energy exchanges differently.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the energy balance. Some guidance has been offered regarding the signs in the energy equations and the assumption that all components reach the same final temperature.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the specifics of the problem setup, including the weights and specific heats of the materials involved, and are questioning the implications of their assumptions on the final temperature calculation.

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This is a really simple problem, but I just can't remember how to combine the container and the water.

Homework Statement


An aluminum container weighing 200g contains 500g of water at 20*c. A 300g shot of the same aluminum at 100*c is put into the water. The specific heat for the aluminum is 0.215cal/(g*c). What is the final temperature for the entire system?


Homework Equations


dQ = c*m*dT


The Attempt at a Solution


(T - 20*c) x [(500g x 1cal/(g*c)) + (200 x 0.215cal/(g*c))] = (T - 100*c) x 300g x 0.215cal/(g*c)

T = 9.1216*c

However this answer seems really off.
 
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Energy is conserved so, energy gained by:
Econtainer = mct = 200 * 0.215 *(T-20)
Ewater = mct = 500 * 1* (T-20)
Equals energy lost by:
Eshot = mct = 300 * 0.215* (100-T)

(Final temperature T)
 
Wait, so would you just make Eshot = Ewater and then solve for T and then Eshot = Ewater and solve for a different T?
 
You assume everything comes to the same final temperature. Eshot = Ewater+Econtainer
Watch the signs, energy is lost by the shot and gained by the container and water.
 

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