What is the formula for integrating (a^2 - x^2)^n using integration by parts?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the formula for the integral of the expression (a^2 - x^2)^n using integration by parts. Participants are exploring the application of integration techniques within the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various choices for 'u' and 'dv' in the integration by parts method, noting that different selections lead to different integral forms. Some express confusion about the effectiveness of their chosen approaches, while others suggest alternative strategies for handling the integral.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their methods. Some have offered guidance on how to manipulate the integral, while others are still seeking clarity on the steps involved in the integration process.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation and the manipulation of terms within the integral, as well as the need for clarity on how to expand certain factors. Participants are also navigating the challenges of expressing their mathematical ideas clearly in the forum format.

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Homework Statement



Use integration by parts to derive the formula:

[tex]\int (a^2 - x^2)^n dx = \frac{x(a^2-x^2)^n}{2n+1} + \frac{2a^2n}{2n+1}\int \frac{(a^2 - x^2)^n}{(a^2 - x^2)} dx + C[/tex]

Homework Equations



Integration by parts general formula
∫udv = uv - ∫vdu

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried the following:
[tex]u = (a^2 - x^2)^n, dv = 1[/tex]
This gave me another integral, as expected. However, further applications of integration by parts didn't give me the right answer. I am still looking for other terms for 'u' and 'dv'.
 
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AndersCarlos said:

Homework Statement



Use integration by parts to derive the formula:

[tex]\int (a^2 - x^2)^n dx = \frac{x(a^2-x^2)^n}{2n+1} + \frac{2a^2n}{2n+1}\int \frac{(a^2 - x^2)^n}{(a^2 - x^2)} dx + C[/tex]

Homework Equations



Integration by parts general formula
∫udv = uv - ∫vdu

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried the following:
[tex]u = (a^2 - x^2)^n, dv = 1[/tex]
This gave me another integral, as expected. However, further applications of integration by parts didn't give me the right answer. I am still looking for other terms for 'u' and 'dv'.
What did you get when you used [itex]u = (a^2 - x^2)^n,\ \ dv = 1\,?[/itex]

There's a bit of a trick involved in getting to the correct solution.
 
Well, it became this:

[tex]x(a^2 - x^2) + \int \frac{2nx(a^2 - x^2)^ndx}{(a^2-x^2)}[/tex] So I took 2n out of the integral, as it's constant, then, I've tried using: u = (a^2 - x^2)^(n-1) and dv = x, which will result in another integral: ∫nx^3(a^2 - x^2)^(n-2)dx, so this way will just generate (n-k) integrals, while that choosing u = x and dv = (a^2 - x^2)^(n-1), creates: ∫∫(a^2 - x^2)^(n-1)dxdx. (I took out the (uv) part just to show that both my ways weren't correct). Sorry if there is anything wrong. I did these calculations really quick.
 
AndersCarlos said:
Well, it became this:

[tex]x(a^2 - x^2) + \int \frac{2nx(a^2 - x^2)^ndx}{(a^2-x^2)}[/tex] So I took 2n out of the integral, as it's constant, then, I've tried using: u = (a^2 - x^2)^(n-1) and dv = x, which will result in another integral: ∫nx^3(a^2 - x^2)^(n-2)dx, so this way will just generate (n-k) integrals, while that choosing u = x and dv = (a^2 - x^2)^(n-1), creates: ∫∫(a^2 - x^2)^(n-1)dxdx. (I took out the (uv) part just to show that both my ways weren't correct). Sorry if there is anything wrong. I did these calculations really quick.
That should be [itex]\displaystyle x(a^2 - x^2)^n+\int \frac{2nx^2(a^2 - x^2)^ndx}{(a^2-x^2)}\,,[/itex] which can be written: [itex]\displaystyle x(a^2 - x^2)^n+2n\int x^2(a^2 - x^2)^{n-1}dx\,.[/itex]

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Expand the factor of x2 in the integral as [itex]\ -\{(a^2-x^2)-a^2\}\,.[/itex]
 
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Sorry, forgot to put the 'n' exponent. I would put the (n-1) exponent, but tex shows it wrongly... [tex]x^(n-1)[/tex]
So, where should I expand the factor? The initial integral or the one after the integration by parts? Sorry, for not understanding, but in what does expanding the factor will help?
 
AndersCarlos said:
Sorry, forgot to put the 'n' exponent. I would put the (n-1) exponent, but tex shows it wrongly... [tex]x^(n-1)[/tex]
So, where should I expand the factor? The initial integral or the one after the integration by parts? Sorry, for not understanding, but in what does expanding the factor will help?
To get tex to show it correctly enclose it in {}, e.g. (a^2-x^2)^{n-1} .

In the integral [itex]\displaystyle 2n\int x^2(a^2 - x^2)^{n-1}dx[/itex] there's a factor [itex]x^2[/itex].
Write that [itex]x^2[/itex] as [itex]\ \ x^2=-\{(a^2-x^2)-a^2\}\,.[/itex] Distribute the (a2-x2)n through that, but don't break up the (a2-x2) . Split into two integrals, one of which is the same as the original.​

Alternatively:
Write the original integral as:
[itex]\displaystyle \int (a^2 - x^2)^n dx=\int\left((a^2-x^2)(a^2-x^2)^{n-1}\right)dx[/itex]
[itex]\displaystyle =\int\left(a^2(a^2-x^2)^{n-1}\right)dx-\int\left(x^2(a^2-x^2)^{n-1}\right)dx[/itex]​
Use integration by parts on the second integral on the last line, letting u=x, and dv will be all the rest.

The integration by parts will include an integral identical to your initial integral. Use algebra to solve for that integral.​
 
SammyS:

Finally I was able to get it correctly, thank you very much.
 

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