What is the Implicit Differentiation of (x + y)sin(xy) = 1?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative dy/dx of the equation (x + y)sin(xy) = 1 using implicit differentiation. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on differentiation techniques involving products and chain rules.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the product rule and chain rule but expresses uncertainty about their differentiation steps. Some participants question the arithmetic and clarity of the original poster's work, suggesting that errors may have occurred in the differentiation process.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on the differentiation process. There is recognition of the need for clarity in the application of the product and chain rules, and some guidance has been offered to help the original poster refine their approach.

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There are indications that the original poster may have made arithmetic errors in their calculations, and the complexity of implicit differentiation is acknowledged. The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster planning to revisit their work based on the feedback received.

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I have a question thus:

If (x + y)sin(xy) = 1 find dy/dx.

It looks to me as I should use the product rule.

d/dx(x + y) I get 1 + dy/dx

Now this is where it gets kinda tricky.

d/dx sin(xy) its the fuction of a function I think!

I get (eventually) cos(xy)xdy/dx + y

Now putting it all together and using the prod rule as 1st stated my final effort is


dy/dx = -y -sin(xy)/(x +y)cos(xy)x + sin(xy)


Can any shed some light on my work so far!

Cheers

Jimmy
 
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I think you understand the relevant calculus here!


Alas, your arithmetic needs some work -- some of the equations you've written are wrong. The one I looked at could be just that you forgot to use parentheses. But it could also be the result of a different arithmetic error, I can't tell which.
 
You're right, you do have to use the product rule, but remember the product rule is

(uv)` = uv` + vu`

It's a bit hard to follow your work, but it looks like you differentiated both "products" and then multiplied them together which would be wrong. Also, looking at your derivatives, perhaps you just forgot to write them out, but don't forget when you use the chain rule when finding d/dx(sinxy) you must distribute cos(xy) to the inner quantity. Sometimes implicit differentiation can get a bit complicated and messy... It might make it a bit more clear if you let u = x+y, and v = sin(xy), find u` and v` and plug then back into the formula above.
 
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Cheers eveyone, I have taken heed of your advice and have had another go at it, and yes my final answer was a little different...

I will post my efforts when I get 5 minutes...

Thanks for your help

James
 

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