What is the Initial Speed of a Basketball Thrown to a Hoop?

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The discussion centers on calculating the initial speed of a basketball thrown at a 40-degree angle from a height of 2.00m to a hoop located 10.0m away and 3.05m high. The participants emphasize using kinematic equations rather than energy equations for this problem. The recommended approach involves utilizing the equations of motion to derive simultaneous equations for both the horizontal and vertical components of the throw, ultimately leading to the determination of the initial velocity required for the ball to reach the hoop.

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Homework Statement


The problem

A basketball player 2.00m in height throws the ball at a 40degree angle 10.0m from the basketball post and manages to get the ball through the net without it touching the backboard. If the height of the net is 3.05m from the ground, what is the initial speed of the ball?


Homework Equations



(PE+KE)initial = (PE+KE)final
PE = mgh, KE = (1/2)mv2
W = (Fcosθ)Δx , θ is the angle between the directions F and Δx

The Attempt at a Solution


What I tried:

(PE+KE)initial = (PE+KE)final
set y=0 at the position the ball was thrown
0 + .5vi2 = gh + .5vf2
-> .5vi2 = 9.80m/s2*1.05m + .5vf2

I have no idea how it should be handled from here and this is all the information that was given...
 
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eatblue said:

Homework Statement


The problem

A basketball player 2.00m in height throws the ball at a 40degree angle 10.0m from the basketball post and manages to get the ball through the net without it touching the backboard. If the height of the net is 3.05m from the ground, what is the initial speed of the ball?


Homework Equations



(PE+KE)initial = (PE+KE)final
PE = mgh, KE = (1/2)mv2
W = (Fcosθ)Δx , θ is the angle between the directions F and Δx

The Attempt at a Solution


What I tried:

(PE+KE)initial = (PE+KE)final
set y=0 at the position the ball was thrown
0 + .5vi2 = gh + .5vf2
-> .5vi2 = 9.80m/s2*1.05m + .5vf2

I have no idea how it should be handled from here and this is all the information that was given...


Welcome to the PF. I don't think that using the energy equations is the easiest way to do this problem. This is pretty much a straightforward application of the kinematic equations of motion. Start with the kinematic equations:

y(t) = y(0) + _____ + _____ (fill in the starting equations)

x(t) = x(0) + ______ (there are on ly two terms here -- why?)

Vy(t) =

Vx(t) =

And write the acceleration formulas for x and y..

Then the usual way to solve this type of problem is use the x(t) and Vx(t) information to solve for the time it takes for the ball to reach the hoop, and use that time answer to finish solving the problem.

In the case of this question, you may end up with a couple simultaneous equations (some in x, some in y) that you solve together to get the initial velocity of the ball.

Give it a go with the standard equations. If you have trouble still, post your work here for folks to try to help you out.
 
Use y(t) = -4.9t2+v0t+y0
and x(t) = v0t+x0?
Thanks! I'd completely forgotten about that formula:)
 

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