What is the intention of atom to form ions?

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The discussion centers on the intention of atoms to form ions, specifically focusing on iron's ability to exist as Fe2+ and Fe3+ ions. The formation of these ions is linked to the principles of inorganic chemistry, where main group elements achieve stability by either losing or gaining electrons to reach a noble gas configuration. Groups 1A and 2A typically lose electrons, while Groups 5A to 7A gain electrons. The conversation also touches on the importance of understanding the electrochemical series, although it suggests that the original questions may stem from broader chemistry inquiries rather than specific homework assignments. The dialogue emphasizes the complexity of these concepts and the need for deeper exploration beyond standard chemistry classes.
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what is the intention of atom to form ions?
how do we know when iron form iron2+ or iron3+ irons?
do we need to remember the electrochemical series?
 
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Again, this looks like a series of homework questions. Please attempt the questions yourself first and you will find a greater number of more useful posts in response.
 
Well to answer the question of why iron exists as [Fe]2+ and [Fe]3+, we'd need to get into inorganic chemistry, which I cannot answer at this point.

But for main group elements, they exist in isoelectronic series, with Groups 1A and 2A losing as many electrons to attain the previous noble gas configuration, whereas the gaseous elements in Groups 5A to
7A gain as many electrons as the noble gas across from it. Note this is only for the gaseous elements. Bromine is a liquid at room temperature, but is not excluded. (all the halogens gain 1e- to attain the outer configuration of the noble gas directly across from it).
 
There's a semi-formal argument in the following thread (note the correction to the typo - the first 2 instances of the word 'argon' should be replaced with 'neon'):
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=91938&highlight=chemistry

Hoot: I doubt the OP's questions are actually homework - they look like some of those many legitimate chemistry doubts that never get satisfactorily resolved in any series of chem classes.
 
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Hoot: I doubt the OP's questions are actually homework - they look like some of those many legitimate chemistry doubts that never get satisfactorily resolved in any series of chem classes.
Point taken.
 
It seems like a simple enough question: what is the solubility of epsom salt in water at 20°C? A graph or table showing how it varies with temperature would be a bonus. But upon searching the internet I have been unable to determine this with confidence. Wikipedia gives the value of 113g/100ml. But other sources disagree and I can't find a definitive source for the information. I even asked chatgpt but it couldn't be sure either. I thought, naively, that this would be easy to look up without...
I was introduced to the Octet Rule recently and make me wonder, why does 8 valence electrons or a full p orbital always make an element inert? What is so special with a full p orbital? Like take Calcium for an example, its outer orbital is filled but its only the s orbital thats filled so its still reactive not so much as the Alkaline metals but still pretty reactive. Can someone explain it to me? Thanks!!

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