What is the kinetic energy of particles in plasma

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To create plasma from argon gas using electricity, a minimum voltage of around 137 volts is required, as 30 volts is insufficient for this process. The average kinetic energy of argon particles in plasma can be calculated based on the voltage applied, with 30 volts providing approximately 30 electron volts of energy. Plasma can exist at high pressures, such as 10,000 psi, but this requires extremely high temperatures that could damage the container. The discussion emphasizes that the quality of questions influences the usefulness of the answers received. Understanding the relationship between voltage, pressure, and plasma formation is crucial for successful experimentation.
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if i connect an electric current of 30 volts to argon gas to transform it to plasma, what is the average kinetic energy of the argon particles in that plasma?
 
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30 volt is a potential difference, not an electric current. If you just have two electrodes with 30 volts difference in an argon gas, nothing will happen (unless the electrodes are extremely close together).
 
Current is not measured in volts.

30 volts is not enough.
[PLAIN]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law said:
For[/PLAIN] argon, the minimum arc voltage is 137 V at a larger 12 µm.

Creating a gap of only 12 µm is not easy. You also need a vacuum.

The energy of the particles in the plasma depends on the distance from the arc. Energy considerations are also discussed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law

You could do a much better job in phrasing your question. The usefulness of answers here is proportional to the quality of the question.
 
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Some basic physics... A voltage of 30volts will accelerate singly charged ions to provide kinetic energy of 30eV (about 50 x 10-19) joules
 
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anorlunda said:
Current is not measured in volts.

30 volts is not enough.Creating a gap of only 12 µm is not easy. You also need a vacuum.

The energy of the particles in the plasma depends on the distance from the arc. Energy considerations are also discussed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law

You could do a much better job in phrasing your question. The usefulness of answers here is proportional to the quality of the question.
then how to make plasma with argon gas, i saw a couple of videos on the internet. could you please explain to me how this happens and how to do it?
 
i just want to know how to transform argon gas to plasma with electricity and calculate the average kinetic energy of that plasma?
 
and also can a container of argon gas at 10,000 psi be converted to plasma with electricity or plasma can't exist at high pressure? assuming the container can hold it and how much electricity should be applied to convert that much argon to plasma if possible?
 
In general: a higher voltage can work.
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and also can a container of argon gas at 10,000 psi be converted to plasma with electricity or plasma can't exist at high pressure? assuming the container can hold it and how much electricity should be applied to convert that much argon to plasma if possible?
It can exist, but only at completely unreasonable temperatures (evaporating the container walls).

Don't ask x-y questions please.
What do you actually want to do? Why do you want a high-pressure argon plasma?
 
mfb said:
In general: a higher voltage can work.
It can exist, but only at completely unreasonable temperatures (evaporating the container walls).

Don't ask x-y questions please.
What do you actually want to do? Why do you want a high-pressure argon plasma?
i just couldn't understand why only plasmas exist in low pressure gases and why can't they be applied to a higher situation, i thought that plasma have limitation with pressure of the gas and the voltage passing through it but thanks to you i get it now
 
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