What Is the Maximum Height Achieved by Mass M1 After Elastic Collision?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum height achieved by mass M1 after an elastic collision with mass M2, which has fallen and collided with the ground. The initial velocity of mass M2 is determined to be 9.89 m/s before the collision. The user attempts to apply the collision formula but arrives at an incorrect final velocity for mass M1. There is confusion regarding the correct application of the collision equations and the velocities of both masses prior to their interaction. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on the definitions of variables and the conservation of energy principles in elastic collisions.
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Two spheres of mass M1 and M2 are arranged one above the other as shown. They are separated by a fraction of a mm. They are released from rest and allowed to fall to the ground, a distance h = 5.0 m below. Mass M2 collides elastically with the ground and then elastically with mass M1. Calculate the maximum height the center of M1 rises above the ground after the collision. D = 0.20 cm, d = 0.05 cm, M1 = 0.20 kg, M2 = 1.10 kg.

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so I got the velocity by using vf^2 = 2ad and got 9.89m/s.

I use the collision formula:

(9.89)(1.1)=(.2)(v)

v= 54.337 - 9.89
=44.557 m/s for the smaller ball.

then 0=44.557^2+2ad

d=101.29 + 5 m = 106m.

Its incorrect.[/B]
 
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It's a bit tricky, so I'd prefer to know the textbook's answer before I venture to offer guidance. ☺

But I think the interaction is between M1 coming down at some speed and colliding with M2 traveling upwards. I think that's what the authors must be intending, anyway.
 
Use potential energy conservation.
(I assume M1 originally sits on top of M2. You should also define d and D though I imagine they are the diameters of M1 and M2 respectively).
 
I assume that the balls are so small compared to the distance dropped that we can effectively treat them as point masses.
mshiddensecret said:
I use the collision formula:
(9.89)(1.1)=(.2)(v)
What formula is that, exactly? What does it apply to? What are the velocities of the two balls immediately before they collide?
 
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