What is the maximum power transfer for a load in a circuit using nodal analysis?

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The discussion revolves around finding the load resistor value that allows for maximum power transfer in a circuit using nodal analysis. Participants are addressing the application of Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Thevenin's theorem in the context of circuit analysis, with a focus on resolving potential errors in the initial equations presented.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their KCL equations for nodes V1, V2, and V3, suggesting they may be incorrect and indicating confusion in solving for the node voltages.
  • Another participant points out a potential sign error in the KCL equation for V1, noting that the direction of current flow must be consistent throughout the equations.
  • A suggestion is made to simplify calculations by substituting I1 and R1 with their Thevenin equivalent, and to differentiate the power equation with respect to R_load to find the maximum power transfer condition.
  • One participant proposes a revised set of KCL equations for the nodes, asking for confirmation on their correctness.
  • Another participant provides an alternative KCL equation for V1 and V2, indicating a specific value for V2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial KCL equations or the proposed revisions. Multiple competing views on the equations and methods for finding the maximum power transfer remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding current directions and potential errors in the initial equations, which may affect the analysis. The discussion reflects a need for clarification on the application of Thevenin's theorem and the conditions for maximum power transfer.

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Circuit Analysis--Nodal error?

Homework Statement


Find R_Load for maximum power that can be transferred to the load.


Homework Equations



KCL@V1: (V1-6v)/3kΩ + (V1-V3)/6kΩ + (V1 - V2)/2kΩ - 2mA = 0

KCL@V2: 2mA + (V2 - V1)/2kΩ + Isc = 0

KCL@V3: 2mA + (V3-V1)/6kΩ - Isc = 0


The Attempt at a Solution


NOTE: The above equations are currents for KCL that I came up with while attempting Nodal Analysis so they may be incorrect...

Okay basically I'm trying to do two things here:

(1) reduce the circuit to one voltage source and one resistor for Thevenin's theorem.
I've started by removing the load resistor, and trying to find the value for Isc [short circuit current] via nodal analysis... but I'm stuck I don't believe the above nodal equations are correct and even if they are I really! screwed up trying to solve for V1, V2, and V3.

(2) Once I have the Thev. equivalent circuit I want to plug that load resistor back in and find its value that will "Maximize power" -- I have absolutely no idea how to do this.

I've uploaded some images of the circuit I drew [software isn't working for me but at least it makes nice pictures] to give you an idea of what I'm doing...
 

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There's a problem that I see with KCL@V1 (and V2 and V3). It's a subtle point but (V1-6V)/(3k) suggests that positive current flows from V1 to 6V - away from node V1. However, you use -2mA to indicate current flowing away as well on the same side of the equation so your signs are all mixed up. It doesn't matter whether you originally assume the current direction correctly as long as you are consistent.

Maximum power occurs when the resistance is equal to Voc / Isc.
 


Substituting I1,R1 by their Thevenin equivalent will simplify your calculations.
Once you have your Thevenin equivalent and plug R_load in., write the equation for the power, with Vth and Rth as known values and R_load as a variable. Differentiate the power equation wrt R_load and set it to zero.
You have the value of R_load that maximizes power transfer.
Incidentally, this value is Rth, that is what jhicks said.
 


The correct equations for this poblem are:

V1: (6-V1)/3k + (V1-V2)/6k + (V1-V2)/2k - 2mA = 0

V2: (V2-V3)/Rload + (V1-V2)/2k + 2mA = 0

V3: (V2-V3)/Rload + (V1-V3)/6k = 0

(V2-V3)/Rload = Isc

Right? (I asking rather than telling)
 


@V1: (V1 - 6V)/3k + (V1-V3)/6k + 2mA + (V1-V2)/2k = 0V

@V2: -2mA + (V2-V1)/2k = 0V


V2 = 0V
 

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