Nodal Analysis of this Circuit using the Laplace Transform

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The discussion revolves around the application of nodal analysis in the s-domain using the Laplace Transform for a specific electrical circuit problem. Participants are examining the correctness of their equations and the interpretation of circuit components, particularly focusing on the treatment of current and voltage sources.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their nodal analysis equations but questions the validity of their results compared to an answer booklet.
  • Another participant suggests that the first poster may not be treating the circuit correctly as a current source, indicating a potential misunderstanding.
  • A third participant asserts that both previous contributors are incorrect and emphasizes the importance of accurately drawing current directions and applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) at each node.
  • This participant also provides an example of how to express current through a resistor and highlights the need for careful sign management in the equations.
  • Another contributor points out that the first poster may be misinterpreting the current source as a voltage source, which could lead to incorrect equations.
  • One participant acknowledges their earlier mistake regarding the current source and prompts further clarification on the current through a specific resistor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the initial equations and the treatment of circuit elements. There is no consensus on the validity of the answer booklet or the proper application of nodal analysis in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the circuit is assumed to be in steady state and question the necessity of using the Laplace Transform in this scenario.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in circuit analysis, particularly those studying electrical engineering concepts related to nodal analysis and the Laplace Transform.

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Was just practicing some problems on the Fundamentals of Electric Circuits, and came across this question.
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I understand I will have to transform to the s domain circuit, which looks something like this:
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Then doing nodal analysis, I will get the following for the first segement
(10/s-V1)/1 = (V0-V1)/s + V1/(2/s)

However, the answer booklet states that it should be: (10/s-V1)/1 = (V0-V1)/s + V0/(2/s)

I'm unsure if the answer booklet is wrong though,because I thought I was pretty confident in nodals until I see the answer.
What are the problems with my concepts in this case? Thanks
 
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Are you still treating it as a current source? It's hard to tell.
 
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I think you're both wrong.

Draw the current directions on your schematic at each node, make an equation at each node that sums the currents properly. Then substitute each current with the equation for the associated circuit component. Since you have 2 nodes, there will be 2 KCL equations (although from your question, it seems you only care about 1).

For example, the current through the 1 ohm resistor flowing from the source towards the inductor is (10/s-V1)/1, if you wanted the current in the other direction, it would be -(10/s-V1)/1 = (V1-10/s)/1. In both cases the current is the voltage difference across the element divided by the impedance of that element.

This is mostly an exercise in keeping careful track of the signs and adding things correctly.

BTW, The reason I know you answer book is wrong is the term Vo/(2/s). Vo isn't at that capacitor, there is no simple relationship between them.
 
@jisbon,
I believe you are considering the current source to be a voltage source in your calculations. It is evident from your node voltage equation (which would also be
incorrect if it were a voltage source).

Also, there is no switch in the circuit. It means you can assume the circuit to be already in steady state. I am not sure why Laplace transform is required here.
 
Oops, I missed the current source part. Yes, they are correct. The arrow means it's a current source.

So, then what is the current through the 1Ω resistor? Hint: Not what I said before, but your KCL equations in terms of the currents at each node are still the same, there's just a different substitution for the current through the 1Ω resistor.
 

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