What is the net force on the car?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net force on a car moving along a curve while decelerating. The car has a mass of 1200 kg, a radius of 250 m, and a speed of 10 m/s, with a deceleration of 2 m/s². Participants clarify that the centripetal force is provided by static friction, which must account for both tangential (deceleration) and radial (centripetal) components. The need to sum the vector forces correctly is emphasized, as they act in different directions. Understanding the relationship between these forces is crucial for accurately determining the total static friction force as a fraction of the car's weight.
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Homework Statement


At a certain instant of time, a 1200 kg car traveling along a curve 250 m in radius is moving at a speed of 10 m/s but is slowing down at a rate of 2 m/s2. Ignoring air friction, what is the total static friction force on the car as a fraction of its weight at that instant?


Homework Equations


Fc = mv2/R
Ff = \muFN = \mumg


The Attempt at a Solution


I have an idea at how to attempt this...
mv2/R = Ff
(since the centripetal force is provided by the frictional force)
but I need clarification: I see it that the frictional force and the force due to the acceleration (deceleration) of the car act perpendicular to each other and therefore on different axes.
How would you account for this force due to deceleration in calculating the centripetal force? Is this just a matter of calculating the speed of the car at that instant, in which case the deceleration doesn't matter?
 
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Careful. Friction provides all the force accelerating the car, not just the centripetal force. There's both a tangential and a centripetal component.
 
Ah, okay. So the total frictional force is equal to mv^2/R - 2m = -1.6m?
 
Unfortunately it's not that simple.

The accelerations are vectors and they are not acting in the same direction.

Figure the sum of the vectors first because the slowing is tangential and the centripetal is radial.
 
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