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I really need help creating an optimization problem for this, I have this so far..
I(φ, φMax) = Sin(φ * π/φMax)/(Sin(x)2 + 1)

With that said, I don't really understand how to enter values into that equation, "Phi" is really throwing me off, is it a constant or should I treat it as a variable like "theta"??
 

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I really need help creating an optimization problem for this, I have this so far..
I(φ, φMax) = Sin(φ * π/φMax)/(Sin(x)2 + 1)

With that said, I don't really understand how to enter values into that equation, "Phi" is really throwing me off, is it a constant or should I treat it as a variable like "theta"??

Hi mathman! Welcome to MHB! :)

Conventionally "phi" and "theta" are both used as variables.
So yes, you should treat $\phi$ as a variable.
In contrast, $\phi_m$ is given to be fixed, and therefore a constant.

How did you find (Sin(x)2 + 1)?

Suppose the fixture is at height $h$ above the floor.
Then the distance to point P as a function of $\phi$ is:
$$d(\phi) = \frac{h}{\cos\phi}$$

The intensity on the floor at angle $\phi$ is:
$$I(\phi) = \text{constant} \cdot \frac{\sin(\pi\phi/\phi_m)}{d(\phi)^2}$$
 
I like Serena said:
Hi mathman! Welcome to MHB! :)

Conventionally "phi" and "theta" are both used as variables.
So yes, you should treat $\phi$ as a variable.
In contrast, $\phi_m$ is given to be fixed, and therefore a constant.

How did you find (Sin(x)2 + 1)?

Suppose the fixture is at height $h$ above the floor.
Then the distance to point P as a function of $\phi$ is:
$$d(\phi) = \frac{h}{\cos\phi}$$

The intensity on the floor at angle $\phi$ is:
$$I(\phi) = \text{constant} \cdot \frac{\sin(\pi\phi/\phi_m)}{d(\phi)^2}$$
Wow! thanks, I knew the distance formula was off. As far as this "constant" you referred too in the final problem what is that? Also should phi max be set to any value between 0-90?
 
mathman said:
Wow! thanks, I knew the distance formula was off. As far as this "constant" you referred too in the final problem what is that? Also should phi max be set to any value between 0-90?

It's an unknown constant.
We only know how the intensity varies with angle and with distance.
We do not know what the actual intensity is.
That's why we multiply with an unknown constant.

$\phi_m$ could be set to any value between 0 to 90 degrees, but for the calculation we treat it as a constant.
If you want, you can substitute a number, say 80 degrees.
That may help to remember it's a constant.
Just remember that in the final solution, it should say $\phi_m$ again instead of that number.
The same applies to $h$, which is also a constant.
 
I like Serena said:
It's an unknown constant.
We only know how the intensity varies with angle and with distance.
We do not know what the actual intensity is.
That's why we multiply with an unknown constant.

$\phi_m$ could be set to any value between 0 to 90 degrees, but for the calculation we treat it as a constant.
If you want, you can substitute a number, say 80 degrees.
That may help to remember it's a constant.
Just remember that in the final solution, it should say $\phi_m$ again instead of that number.
The same applies to $h$, which is also a constant.
Okay, thanks. Should I define a relationship between phi max and phi? How would I do that algebraically?

0<phi<phi max

0<phi max<90
 
mathman said:
Okay, thanks. Should I define a relationship between phi max and phi? How would I do that algebraically?

That does not seem necessary.
You need a relationship between the intensity and $\phi$.
The relationship can contain any constants, like $\phi_m$ and $h$.
0<phi<phi max

0<phi max<90

This is not a relationship, but an inequality - or condition.
As such it is correct.
 
Hmmm okay, how then would I solve this optimization problem? how can I find the derivative of this equation when there are so many undefined constants
 
mathman said:
Hmmm okay, how then would I solve this optimization problem? how can I find the derivative of this equation when there are so many undefined constants

Let's give the constants values.
Suppose we pick:
$$h=1\text{ m},\quad \phi_m = 1\text{ rad},\quad \text{constant}=1$$
Then we have:
$$d(\phi) = \frac{1}{\cos\phi}$$
and
$$I(\phi)=\frac{\sin(\pi\phi)}{d(\phi)^2}$$
What do you get if you substitute the first in the second? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Let's give the constants values.
Suppose we pick:
$$h=1\text{ m},\quad \phi_m = 1\text{ rad},\quad \text{constant}=1$$
Then we have:
$$d(\phi) = \frac{1}{\cos\phi}$$
and
$$I(\phi)=\frac{\sin(\pi\phi)}{d(\phi)^2}$$
What do you get if you substitute the first in the second? (Wondering)

$I(\phi)=sin(\phi\pi)cos(\phi)^2$

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so it seems .41 radians or (23.49 degrees) is the optimized angle for the highest intensity possible, given those constants.

Thank you, I am seriously blown away with this website and will be sure to tell all my friends to use this in the future
 

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