What is the Probability of Losing in a Lottery with 20,000,000 Tickets?

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The discussion centers around the probability of losing in the Megamillions lottery when 20,000,000 tickets are sold, calculated using the figures 135,145,919 and 135,145,920. The probability of all tickets losing is approximately 0.862, which highlights the high likelihood of losing in such a lottery. Participants express curiosity about the origin of these figures and the legality of a lottery with such a high chance of total loss. There is also a mathematical explanation involving logarithms to approximate the probability, emphasizing the need for clarity on the total number of possible ticket combinations to understand the calculations fully. The conversation touches on the structure of lottery games, referencing PowerBall and the specific rules for ticket combinations.
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If you have a lottery (Megamillions) and you sell 20,000,000 tickets, the probability of them all losing is given by:
(135,145,919/135,145,920)^20,000,000 = 0.862448363

A close approximation is given by:

e^-(20,000,000/135,145,920) = 0.8624413

I just learned this from a book. That's pretty cool!
 
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I suggest that you go back and read that book again!

Did it say anything about where it got the figures
"135,145,919" and "135,145,920". For that matter, did it say anything about the legality of a lottery in which there is an 86% chance that EVERYONE loses?
 
Originally posted by HallsofIvy
For that matter, did it say anything about the legality of a lottery in which there is an 86% chance that EVERYONE loses?
I bet people would still play... ;)

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This is because ln(1+x) ~ x for small x.
=> ln[(k/(k+1))^n] = n ln [k/(k+1)] = n ln [1 - 1/(k+1)]
~ -n/(k+1)
=> (k/(k+1))^n ~ e^[-n/(k+1)].
See?

However I'm puzzled because it doesn't say how many tickets there are in total. Don't we have to know this to figure out the 135,145,919?
 
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did it say anything about the legality of a lottery in which there is an 86% chance that EVERYONE loses?
Ever hear of PowerBall?
 
arcnets
This is because ln(1+x) ~ x for small x
At face value this doesn't seem like a good approximation for some similar applications, like 1/(1-ln(1+x)) where x=1.
 
Loren Booda, by 'small x' I meant |x| << 1. So it's not valid for x=1, of course.
 
I assume there are 135,145,920 possible numbers/choices, with one chosen as the winner.

The rules say there is a power-number 1-52, and 5 distinct numbers 1-52 which can be in any order. So that's 52 * 52! / (5!*47!) , which is right.
 
mea culpa, arcnets
 
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