What is the quantum mechanical difference between an eigenstate/function/vector?

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The discussion revolves around the terminology used in quantum mechanics, specifically the terms eigenstate, eigenfunction, and eigenvector. Participants are exploring the nuances and potential confusion arising from the interchangeable use of these terms in the context of quantum operators and their mathematical representations.

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  • Participants are questioning why different terms are used interchangeably and expressing concern about the confusion this may cause. Some are reflecting on the nature of language and terminology in physics and mathematics, while others are sharing personal experiences with inconsistent terminology in academic settings.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the interchangeable use of terms and the resulting confusion. Some have provided insights into how these terms are typically used in different contexts, but there is no explicit consensus on a resolution to the terminology issue.

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Participants note that the inconsistency in terminology can lead to confusion, especially when different instructors use varying terms in their teaching materials. There is an acknowledgment of the broader issue of language evolution in scientific discourse.

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I see these terms used a lot and at times they seem to be used interchangeably. I am aware of the eigenvalue equation being applied to the normal expression of operators or their matrix versions, eg. [tex]Hu = \lambda[/tex] [tex]\lambda[/tex]u but I see this thing called u being referred to as eigenstate, eigenfunction or eigenvector (or sometimes even just vector) all the time.
What's the deal with this?
Thanks.
 
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You're right, these terms are used interchangably.
 
phyzguy said:
You're right, these terms are used interchangably.

but why, this surely causes needless confusion?
 
These things are not really under anyone's control - different terms just start up and get perpetuated. That's the way language is. There are many examples of things like this - physicists and mathematicians use different terms and different conventions for the same things in many cases. Look at all of the different conventions for Fourier transforms, for example - some people put the 2*pi in one place, some in another. Or why do some people use a (+---) metric signature and other people use a (-+++) signature? Or why do I call it a wrench, while the Brits call it a spanner? All you can do is live with it and become comfortable with the different terms.
 
phyzguy said:
These things are not really under anyone's control - different terms just start up and get perpetuated. That's the way language is. There are many examples of things like this - physicists and mathematicians use different terms and different conventions for the same things in many cases. Look at all of the different conventions for Fourier transforms, for example - some people put the 2*pi in one place, some in another. Or why do some people use a (+---) metric signature and other people use a (-+++) signature? Or why do I call it a wrench, while the Brits call it a spanner? All you can do is live with it and become comfortable with the different terms.

fair do's I suppose. it just gets confusing when even your own lecturer's notes are switching between the terms...
 
Tell me about it. I used to have a professor who would ask, "What did I call this the last time?"
 
They all mean the same thing, they are all talking about a ket. I find that typically people will say eigenstate and eigenfunction when talking about a general ket, eigenfunction if they have a particular wave function, and they say eigenvector when the ket is in a matrix form (such as spinors).

It's kind of like how in differential equations you would solve the characteristic equation, and people would say, oh you found the eigenvalues. And at the time you were like, eigenvalues, huh, I never used any matrices. Then later you learned that, oh the system can be represented in another way, and I really have been solving for eigenvalues.
 

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