What is the Relationship Between Leak Rates and Different Gases?

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The discussion centers on determining the equivalent leak rate of a tank when switching from hydrogen to gases like nitrogen or oxygen, given known pressure, temperature, and flow rate. It emphasizes that the leak rate is influenced by the viscosity of the gases involved, with a decrease in leak rate proportional to an increase in viscosity. Understanding compressible flow is essential, and the ideal gas law is referenced to relate the properties of different gases. The conversation highlights the importance of gas constants specific to each gas type in calculating leak rates. Accurate assessments of leak rates require consideration of these factors.
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Hi Everyone,

I have a problem that I've been working on and I'm having a little trouble. Essentially I have a tank with a known leak rate at a given pressure and temperature. We are currently using hydrogen, but I need to know what the equivalent leak rate would be if we changed the gas to say nitrogen or oxygen. Assuming I have the known values of pressure, temperature, and flow rate, would it be possible to determine the leak rate that we would be detect if we input a different gas and pressurized to the same pressure as before?

Thanks in advance
 
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if you know that leak occurs at tank sealing, it should be sufficient to compare the viscosity of the hydrogen and of the gas you are supposed to utilize. The leak (dot_q) decrease proportionally to the viscosity (eta) as dot_q propto 1/eta.

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Basically, for a gas, you need to understand compressible flow
Fundamental equation
PV=nRT or see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

n is basically your gas constant that is different for the type of gas you have.
 
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