What is the Result of i X i in a Cross Product?

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The discussion centers on the cross product of vectors, specifically the result of i X i. One participant concludes that the vector B must have a j component to transform i into k, asserting that it cannot have components from other vectors. Another participant counters this by stating that the cross product of i with itself yields zero, challenging the initial conclusion. The mathematical approach emphasizes that only a pure -j vector can result from the cross product in this context. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding vector components in cross products.
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in the end of this
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i got to the point where it asks what B is
i think that because i X J = K then b should be in the direction of J

but they have a different conclusion
why??
 
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All you can conclude is that B has a j component.
 
its only in j direction
it can't have a component of other vector
because in order to transform i to k
we need pure j
 
krot said:
its only in j direction
it can't have a component of other vector
because in order to transform i to k
we need pure j
No. Let B = ai + bj + ck. When you take the cross product, each term must give a k-component or 0. We know that c must equal 0, since i X k = -j. But what about a?
 
one vector is(1,0,0)
the result vector is (0,0,1)
i do this determinant to find the cross product
|i j k |
|1 0 0|
|x y z|
it gives us i*0 +j*z +k*-y or (0,z,-y)
but our result vector is (0,0,1)
so z=0 and y=-1

y=-1 is -j vector

there is no a here
i showed purely by math that the result is pure -j vector

there is no way to have components from other vectors
 
krot said:
i showed purely by math that the result is pure -j vector
No you didn't. What's i X i?
 
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