What is the skis co-effecient of kinetic friction with the ice?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction for Sam's jet-powered skis on a slope. Sam, weighing 75 kg, descends a 50m high slope at a speed of 40 m/s, with a thrust of 200N from his skis. Initially, the user considered using conservation of energy but realized that the thrust contributes additional energy. After clarifying the normal force calculation, which involves using the cosine of the slope angle, the correct coefficient of kinetic friction was determined to be 0.165. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately accounting for forces and energy in physics problems.
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Sam, whose mass is 75kg takes off down a 50m high, 10° slope on his jet powered skis. The skis have a thrust of 200N Sam's speed at the bottom of the slope is 40m/s. What is the skis co-effecient of kinetic friction with the ice?



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Thought originally to use conservation of energy at top and bottom, then calculate energy loss, then find distance of slope using trigonometry thus allowing me to use w=fxd to find the frictional force acting on skis, then use Fk=μxmass, to co-effecient of kinetic friction, but soon noticed he gained energy down the slope due to his thrust! stuck??
 
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The thrust does work on Sam doesn't it?
So you could use conservation of energy or kinematics for this.
 
Draw a diagram. Show the forces on the skier. Then write down the kinematics equations.
 
Yes, the thurst does work, and I'm still not getting the correct answer, could someone please show me working??
 
Show your work so people can see where you are going wrong.
 
This is my working
 

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in equation (1) - how do you work out the friction force?
 
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You've multiplied the coefficient of friction by Sam's weight. Is the normal force equal to Sam's weight?
 
sorry yes that's my bad equation 1 should have (co-effecient of kinetic friction)xsams normal force which is not his weight 75 but rather 735xcos(10°) which now gives a co-effecient of 0.165 which is correct thank you i would never have seen that haha
 
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No worries - we can all get blind to odd little things sometimes.
 
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