What is the Solution to This Difficult Bouyancy Question?

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The discussion revolves around solving a buoyancy problem involving a metal object submerged in water. The user initially calculated the volume of displaced water and attempted to find the mass based on the weight force and buoyant force. Clarifications were provided on how to correctly account for buoyant force by adding it to the weight force to find the total weight. The conversation emphasized that while computations are necessary, understanding the relationship between the weight of the object and the displaced water can simplify the process. Ultimately, it was concluded that the density of the object is three times that of water, providing a clearer solution to the problem.
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Homework Statement


Difficult Bouyancy question.PNG


Homework Equations


F = ma
F = pVg
p = m/V

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
First i tried finding the volume of displaced water which i did by...

(50/1000) * 10 = 1000 * 10 * V ---> V = 0.00005 m^3
Next as the metal sits on the bottom its weight force minus the bouyant force contributes to the 100 g mass increase (1 N increase) in weight force on the scales. Using this we can find Mass
Buoyant force provided by 50g water = 0.5 N
Therefore weight force of metal = 1 N - 0.5 N = 0.5 N

F = ma
0.5 = m *10
m = 0.05 kg

p = m/V = 0.05 / 0.00005 m^3
p = 1000...
Which is dead wrong.
Answer says its B.) but i don't know how.
I'm sorry to ask but i urgently need the answer to this one.
Is it ok to ask for working out, or a really big hint?

Thanks in advance
Adam
 
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1 N is the weight minus the buoyant force ... so what do you need to do with the buoyant force and 1 N to get the weight?

Also, computing the buoyant force is to overcomplicate things ...
 
Orodruin said:
1 N is the weight minus the buoyant force ... so what do you need to do with the buoyant force and 1 N to get the weight?

Also, computing the buoyant force is to overcomplicate things ...
hello sorry for the late reply...
Orodruin said:
1 N is the weight minus the buoyant force ... so what do you need to do with the buoyant force and 1 N to get the weight?

Also, computing the buoyant force is to overcomplicate things ...
oh i see. so you need to add the bouyant force?
you then get 1 + 0.5 = 1.5N
1.5 N ---> 0.15 kg
0.15/0.00005 = 3000
thanks a lot!
but i don't get why you added, ill have to think about it
 
Orodruin said:
1 N is the weight minus the buoyant force ... so what do you need to do with the buoyant force and 1 N to get the weight?

Also, computing the buoyant force is to overcomplicate things ...

ok i understand now, the mass of the ball at the bottom already has buoyant force accounted for and so if it was out of the water it would have that weight force added back to it.
thanks a lot for helping me with my stupidity

if i may ask how would you go about this without calculating anything? i think that's too advanced for me
 
Adam Rabe said:
if i may ask how would you go about this without calculating anything? i think that's too advanced for me
You will always need to do some computation. However, the easiest way is to note that the weight of the ball is 3 times that of the water removed and the volume is the same. Therefore, the density is three times that of water.
 
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