What is the Specific Heat of the Substance in This Calorimetry Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a calorimetry problem involving a heated substance and its interaction with water, aluminum, and glass. Participants are exploring the concept of specific heat and the calculations necessary to determine it based on temperature changes and mass.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the initial and final temperatures of the substance and other materials involved. There is confusion regarding the definition of temperature change and how to apply it in the specific heat equation. Questions about the correct setup of the heat transfer equation are raised.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the initial temperature of the substance and the direction of temperature change. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between heat lost and gained, with some guidance on how to properly express the conservation of energy principle.

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Participants are working under the assumption that no water boils away and are trying to reconcile their understanding of the specific heat concept with the details provided in the problem statement.

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A 215-g sample of a substance is heated to 330°C and then plunged into a 105-g aluminum calorimeter cup containing 165 g of water and a 17-g glass thermometer at 12.5°C. The final temperature is 35.0°C. What is the specific heat of the substance? (Assume no water boils away.)
Please, can anybody tell me if I'm doing this right? I got to the certain moment and then I got stock. Heelp! c(glass)=0.84, c(aluminum)=0.900, c(water)=4.2 J/g*C

Tinitial (aluminum)=Tinitial (water)=Tinitial (glass thermometr)=12.5 C?
And Tfinal (al)=Tf(water)=Tf(glass)=35C?
Q(substance)=Q(aluminum)+Q(water)+Q(glass)
Q=mc*(Tf-Ti)
But what is the Tinitial for the substance? We know only 330C and this is final?
215*c*(330-Ti)=105*0.900*(35-12.5)+165*4.2*(35-12.5)*17*0.84*(35-12.5)
 
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But what is the Tinitial for the substance? We know only 330C and this is final?

The 330 degrees is the initial temperature of the substance. When it is placed in the calorimeter its temperature will come to 35 degrees since the system is in equilibrium.
 
So, everything else is right? Then change of temperature is equal to 330-35? Or 35-330? And then I just calculate c from the equation?
thanks for help!
 
Then change of temperature is equal to 330-35? Or 35-330?
If you define the change in temperature as ∆T = Tf - Ti , which do you think it is?
So, everything else is right?
I think your terms are OK, but just remember that the heat lost by the substance equals the heat gained by the water+aluminum+glass.
 
Thank you! That's why it's going to be minus! I just got it!
 
Well it shouldn't be minus, specific heat capacity can't be negative! What I meant was that
(heat lost by the substance) = - (heat gained by water+aluminum+glass).
This is the proper way to write your equation (conservation of energy applies). So if you put the minus in your answer will come out positive, as it should.

You're welcome, by the way. :smile:
 

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