What is the Speed and Angle of a Comet Crossing Earth's Orbit?

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed and angle of a comet crossing Earth's orbit, given that its minimum distance from the Sun is half the radius of Earth's orbit and its speed at that point is twice Earth's orbital speed. Participants explore the use of energy conservation principles and angular momentum to derive the comet's speed in relation to Earth's velocity. They conclude that the shape of the comet's orbit is likely hyperbolic, depending on the relationship between kinetic and gravitational potential energy. The conversation emphasizes the importance of specific mechanical energy in determining orbital characteristics and suggests that provided constants are necessary for precise calculations. Ultimately, the participants express gratitude for the assistance received in solving the problem.
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Hey, here is the problem:

The minimum distance of a comet from the Sun is observed to be half the radius of the
Earth’s orbit (assumed circular) and its speed at that point is twice the orbital speed v(earth) of the Earth. The Earth’s and comet’s orbits are coplanar. Find the comet’s speed in terms of
v(earth) when it crosses the Earth’s orbit, and the angle at which the orbits cross.


I believe this is an energy conservation problem and I used the equation:

0.5mv^2 + (L^2)/(2mr^2) - GMm/r

as well as the fact the Earth's orbital velocity : v(earth) = vsin(θ)

Though I'm not sure if these equations are correct for this particular scenario,

Thanks for any help!
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Since angular momentum is conserved separately, you probably won't need to consider angular kinetic energy in the mechanical energy conservation relation. The specific mechanical energy (##\xi##) of the comet's orbit should come in handy. What does it tell you about the overall shape of the comet's orbit?
 
Thanks for the help, I think I have attained the velocity and the angle.

Well the shape of the orbit or trajectory depends on the energy of the system, I think the shape will be hyperbolic; though I think it depends on whether or not the kinetic energy is greater or equal to or less than the gravitational potential energy; though I'm not sure if there is anyway of working this out without the provided constants i.e. the velocity of the earth, mass of the sun, radius of Earth's orbit and Gravitational constant.

Or is there another way of determining the shape of the orbit?
 
Sekonda said:
Thanks for the help, I think I have attained the velocity and the angle.

Well the shape of the orbit or trajectory depends on the energy of the system, I think the shape will be hyperbolic; though I think it depends on whether or not the kinetic energy is greater or equal to or less than the gravitational potential energy; though I'm not sure if there is anyway of working this out without the provided constants i.e. the velocity of the earth, mass of the sun, radius of Earth's orbit and Gravitational constant.

Or is there another way of determining the shape of the orbit?

You are given speed and radius at a location: v = Ve*2, r = AU/2, where Ve is the Earth's orbital speed (Assume a circular orbit. What's the formula for its speed?), and AU is the Earth's orbital radius. You can plug the various expressions into the total mechanical energy expression. You should be able to determine whether the result will be less than, equal to, or greater than zero.
 
And once again, I think I have solved this problem due to your help.

Thank you once again gneill!
 
Sekonda said:
And once again, I think I have solved this problem due to your help.

Thank you once again gneill!

You're very welcome.
 
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