What is the Tension on a Spring Scale for an Object on an Incline?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the application of Newton's laws to an object on an incline, specifically focusing on the tension reading of a spring scale attached to a 5.00kg object positioned at a 30-degree angle with the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the forces acting on the object and the reading of the spring scale, questioning how to determine the tension based on the forces in the x-direction. There is also discussion about the attachment of the spring scale and its implications for the readings.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the forces involved and questioning the setup of the spring scale. Some guidance has been offered regarding the balance of forces, but no consensus has been reached on the exact reading of the scale.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the spring scale's attachment to a wall rather than the incline itself, which raises questions about the system's dynamics and the interpretation of the forces at play.

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Homework Statement


I am trying to understand how these Newton's laws work, specifically with an object on an incline.
If a 5.00kg object is attached to a Newton spring scale on an incline (incline makes 30 degrees with the ground), what reading is the scale giving?


Homework Equations


Fx = m*g*sin(theta)
Fy = n - m*g*cos(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


Since the object is not accelerating upward, the netforce will equal zero. And I can solve for the force in the x direction. But how can I use these numbers to find the tension on the spring scale?
 
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There are 2 forces in the x-direction... mgsin(theta) and the force the spring exerts (and this is what the spring scale reads)...

the two forces balance each other.
 
So I can simply ignore everything else, solve for the force in the x direction and what the spring reads is opposite of that?
 
saber1357 said:
So I can simply ignore everything else, solve for the force in the x direction and what the spring reads is opposite of that?

yes, I believe so. The object and the spring scale are both on the incline right? If that's the case then the spring scale simply reads mgsin(theta).

is the spring scale attached to the incline?
 
It's not attached to the incline, but a wall directly behind it. I believe that if the spring scale wasn't attached to anything, then there would be no purpose for it.
 
saber1357 said:
It's not attached to the incline, but a wall directly behind it. I believe that if the spring scale wasn't attached to anything, then there would be no purpose for it.

yes, that's true.
 

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