What is the threshold velocity for using the relativistic energy equation?

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The discussion centers on determining the threshold velocity for using the relativistic energy equation E=gamma factor mc^2 - mc^2 versus the classical kinetic energy equation E=mv^2/2. It is established that the gamma factor, ##\gamma##, begins to deviate from 1 at higher velocities, indicating the need for the relativistic equation. At 1,000,000 m/s, the gamma factor does show a slight difference from 1, although it may not be significant for practical calculations. The conversation emphasizes that for lab-scale speeds, the difference between the two equations is often negligible. Understanding when to switch to the relativistic equation is crucial for accurate energy calculations at high velocities.
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To calculate kinetic energy I can either use E=mv^2/2 or for higher velocities I can use E=gamma factormc^2 - mc^2.

So my question is at which velocity can I use E=gamma factormc^2 - mc^2? Is 1000000m/s a high enough velocity?

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Once ##\gamma## starts to deviate from 1 you will need the relativistic expression. Simple, isn't it ?
 
yes thanks alot!
 
Just to get an idea: how much does ##\gamma## differ from 1 at the speed you mentioned ?
 
I checked it and it doesn't differ :P
 
But it does differ! perhaps not on a cheap calculator, but ##\gamma = 1.0000055556... \ne 1 ## :smile:
What you mean is that it doesn't differ significantly...
 
yes well my graph calculator show that the gamma factor is equal to one :) But I get the idea
 
Sometimes helping the calculator a little by hand is more accurate: $$
\gamma = {1\over \sqrt {1-\beta^2}} \approx 1+{1\over 2} \beta^2 \, , $$ in your case ##1+ {1\over 2}{1\over 300^2} = 1+ 1/180000 \ne 1 ##
 
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BvU said:
Once ##\gamma## starts to deviate from 1 you will need the relativistic expression. Simple, isn't it ?

Actually, the issue is whether ##\gamma## differs significantly from ##1 + \frac{1}{c^2} \frac{1}{2} v^2##, or whether ##c^2 (\gamma - 1)## differs significantly from ##v^2/2##. For lab-scale speeds, ##\gamma## will hardly ever differ "significantly" from 1.
 

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