What is the Torque on a Looped Wire in a Uniform Magnetic Field?

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The problem involves calculating the torque on an eight-turn coil that encloses an elliptical area in a uniform magnetic field. The coil has a specific current flowing through it and is oriented in a particular direction relative to the magnetic field.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the torque equation and the values used for the area of the coil. There is uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the major and minor axes versus the semimajor and semiminor axes needed for the area calculation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions made about the area of the coil. Some have provided their calculations, while others are seeking clarification on the correct values to use for the area based on the hint provided.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the use of the major and minor axes versus their semimajor and semiminor counterparts in the area formula, which may affect the calculation of torque.

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Problem:

An eight turn coil encloses an elliptical area having a major axis of 40.0 cm and a minor axis of 30.0 cm. The coil lies in the plane of the screen and has a 5.85 A current flowing clockwise around it. If the coil is in a uniform magnetic field of 2.02 10-4 T directed toward the left of the screen, what is the magnitude of the torque on the coil? (Hint: The area of an ellipse is A = πab, where a and b are, respectively, the semimajor and semiminor axes of the ellipse.)

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I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong because this is plug in and calculate problem with the equation for torque. I'm guessing the angle would be 90 in this case so sin 90 = 1. The answer i came up with was .00356 N*M
 
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Hi ketchuppy,

ketchuppy said:
Problem:

An eight turn coil encloses an elliptical area having a major axis of 40.0 cm and a minor axis of 30.0 cm. The coil lies in the plane of the screen and has a 5.85 A current flowing clockwise around it. If the coil is in a uniform magnetic field of 2.02 10-4 T directed toward the left of the screen, what is the magnitude of the torque on the coil? (Hint: The area of an ellipse is A = πab, where a and b are, respectively, the semimajor and semiminor axes of the ellipse.)

19-p-027.gif


I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong because this is plug in and calculate problem with the equation for torque. I'm guessing the angle would be 90 in this case so sin 90 = 1. The answer i came up with was .00356 N*M


Please post the details of what you did (as in, what numbers you used and what you did with them). My guess is that you read the hint incorrectly and used 40cm and 30cm for [itex]a[/itex] and [itex]b[/itex], but without your work I can't be certain.
 
I used the equation Torque = NAIB Sin angle

N= 8
A= .376 m^2
I = 5.85
B= 2.02 10-4 T
for the angle i used 90 degrees
 
ketchuppy said:
I used the equation Torque = NAIB Sin angle

N= 8
A= .376 m^2

I believe this area is incorrect, which is what I was referring to in my last post. The problems gives numerical values for the major axis and minor axis (40 cm and 30cm).

But in the hint, the values of [itex]a[/itex] and [itex]b[/itex] to use in the area formula are the semimajor and semiminor axis.
 
alphysicist said:
I believe this area is incorrect, which is what I was referring to in my last post. The problems gives numerical values for the major axis and minor axis (40 cm and 30cm).

But in the hint, the values of [itex]a[/itex] and [itex]b[/itex] to use in the area formula are the semimajor and semiminor axis.

TY I didn't see that it was semi. =)
 

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