What is the truth behind Operation PRATO?

In summary, there are multiple videos of UFOs, and they appear to be moving at high speeds. Some people think the videos are hoaxes, others think they are real.
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PIT2
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If anyone has an UFO video to share, u can post it in this thread.

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Heres a flying saucer video i found:

http://db.bbc.co.uk/southampton/realmedia/features/ufo1.ram

Its about 15 mins long, but the last 10 mins are a slowmotion of previous minutes.
U need realplayer to view it.

The best parts of the video are at:
-1.00
-4.00
-8.10
-10.00

source: http://db.bbc.co.uk/southampton/features/ufo/ufo_et.shtml

What do u guys think? Hoax? Identified? Or a real saucer?
 
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it won't play?
am i the only one?
 
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It works okay for me. Is your Real player up to date?
 
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The object in the video is definitely a silvery, saucer shaped disk.

But i suppose it could be a balloon. Perhaps there is some way of comparing its movements with the clouds and see if it goes with the wind or not.
 
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Here is another video (this time u need quicktime):

http://www.anomalies.net/ufo/nasaufo/3902/warpspeed.mov 7.2 mb

Description:

In this clip, as the camera operator aboard the Shuttle sends Houston a magnificent sunset shot of Earth, and the last vestiges of sunlight halo the planet, an extremely bright (and likely very large) UFO zips into the picture frame and comes to a sudden and complete halt. It lingers for a moment, motionless, then traverses space for what must be thousands of miles in an instant and stops again. It appears then to move either closer toward the shuttle, or intensifies in brilliance and rises away from the Earth, then clearly departs away from the Shuttle and disappears over the curvature of the Earth as the sun sets completely.

http://www.ufoarea.com/nasa_dirty_secret.html

Can anyone estimate at what speed this object moves?
 
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Heres a flying saucer video i found:
http://db.bbc.co.uk/southampton/rea...atures/ufo1.ram
I'm no video expert, but doesn't there seem to be a striking difference between the pixels that immediately surround the ufo and the rest of the video? Just make it full screen and let me know if you see the same thing. It looks like a video of a saucer was pasted onto a video of the sky, if that makes sense.
 
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kcballer21 said:
I'm no video expert, but doesn't there seem to be a striking difference between the pixels that immediately surround the ufo and the rest of the video? Just make it full screen and let me know if you see the same thing. It looks like a video of a saucer was pasted onto a video of the sky, if that makes sense.

that happens a lot due to video compression. i can video tape a plane in the sky and put it on my comp and compress it and the pixels around it will be blurred a bit
 
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Yub that's entirely consistent with video compression.
 
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Kakarot said:
that happens a lot due to video compression. i can video tape a plane in the sky and put it on my comp and compress it and the pixels around it will be blurred a bit

yeah, but the pixelation appears to form a rectangle, and in real videos it would form a circuler shape around the disk, or airplane shape raund the plane...
 
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hexhunter said:
yeah, but the pixelation appears to form a rectangle, and in real videos it would form a circuler shape around the disk, or airplane shape raund the plane...

Take a look at the date and time stamp at the bottom right, u will see that this has identical pixelation. Also, take a look at any other compressed video, u will see that its perfectly normal.

Compression uses a square grid to determine what the pixels surrounding the center-pixel will be compressed to, like:

01210
12321
23532
12321
01210

The size of this grid can vary, as can the numbers used to alter the area of pixels.


Yes, this video could be hoax-editted, but so far there is no indication that this is the case.
 
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i don't know anything about video's, I'm just saying, you might be right...
 
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Heres a video shot by the mexican airforce:

http://www.principality-of-sealand.org/media/ufo_mexico_03_2004.wmv

Anyone else got some interesting UFO video's?
 
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i dont, but i have read A Universe In a Nutshell by Stephen Hawking and i argee with what he says on aliens. If there were super intelligent beings they would feel no remorse in crushing us like we crush ants. So the aliens would have to be dumber then us.
 
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Here is another video:

http://www.theobtuseangleofdewm.net/~rd/1995video.avi

Its 12 MB and 2 minutes long, high quality.
I believe it was shot in Florida, but I am not sure.
 
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It seems the above link doesn't always work.

Heres a new link to the video:

http://www.pitrd.com/temp/1995video.avi (12mb)

Can anyone tell me their opinions of the authenticity of this video?

I don't have much knowledge about how bright lights affect camera's, but the white light surrounding this UFO seems odd... perhaps even hoaxed.

Id like to hear some other opinions on this.
 
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PIT2 said:
Here is another video (this time u need quicktime):

http://www.anomalies.net/ufo/nasaufo/3902/warpspeed.mov 7.2 mb

Description:



Can anyone estimate at what speed this object moves?

I don't know what the object is, but it's pretty obvious that it's "movement" is due to the camera operator panning and zooming.

It's impossible to estimate its size without making assumptions about its distance. It would be equally valid to suggest that it was very close to the camera (a reflection in the window??) as to suggest that it was thousands of km away.
 
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PeteSF said:
I don't know what the object is, but it's pretty obvious that it's "movement" is due to the camera operator panning and zooming.

I don't think panning and zooming alone can cause those perceived movements.

The only clear bits where he zooms in are at second 0 to 2, and seconds 25 to 29. But inbetween the UFO also moves at apparent great speed.

Perhaps the guy also fastforwarded the tape. It seems like Earth's luminated atmosphere very quickly dissapears over the horizon.
 
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Firstly, how do you know what speed the light moves at without making assumptions about its distance?
Secondly, the camera clearly pans right to left in seconds 16 to 23, which produces the apparent left to right movement of the light.

The final few seconds are odd. I don't know what's happening there. It's almost like the camera was lowered, and the image faded to black.

I suggest that the image is more consistent with the reflection of an instrument light inside the shuttle rather than an external object.
 
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PeteSF said:
Firstly, how do you know what speed the light moves at without making assumptions about its distance?

The final few seconds are odd. I don't know what's happening there. It's almost like the camera was lowered, and the image faded to black.

I suggest that the image is more consistent with the reflection of an instrument light inside the shuttle rather than an external object.

In seconds 28 to 46, the light appears to move over the horizon and behind earth.

This is an indication that the object is not a reflection.

Secondly, the camera clearly pans right to left in seconds 16 to 23, which produces the apparent left to right movement of the light.

Yes i see the panning now.

It seems the cameraman is trying to focus the camera at the light.
-first he zooms out to make the light visible to the camera.
-next he pans to the left, to center the light.
-finaly, he zooms in on the light as it moves away from him and dissapears over the horizon.

So we have a stationairy light, perhaps the international spacestation?
 
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I hadn't picked up that the camera movements were consistent with the operator deliberately filming the light. Well spotted (although it seems obvious now you've said it :smile: )
In seconds 28 to 46, the light appears to move over the horizon and behind earth.
Something strange happens, but I'd hesitate to conclude exactly what, since the Earth also fades from view. The intensity of the light also doesn't seems to change a lot in this time, which seems inconsistent with a distant object.
Unless... the camera is adjusted for low light, and the light is bright enough to saturate the pixels at that point? In this case, the filmed brightness wouldn't change to match the actual brightness...

You coudl be right; perhaps it is the Space Station, or some other object in a similar orbit to the Shuttle at that time. Or could it be an oil drilling platform on the Ocean's surface?

Whatever it is, it's odd. :confused:
 
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PIT2 said:
This is another flying saucer movie:

http://www.hbccufo.com/videos/ufomare_Bband.mov

This one is lovely! Very mysterious, but all the clues are there.

The way the thing(s) disappear is great. Almost as though they're blown to smithereens?

And do you hear a repeated popping noise in the background?

And what is that tallish white building in the background on the occasions the filmer zooms out enough to see it?

http://www.nyskeet.com/gallery/SkeetTournament-Sept2003/images/skeet%20tournament-12.jpg
 
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I haven't got the right codec to see the 12Mb one.
The others are interesting, but insufficient to draw conclusions or even hazard a guess on what they are.
 
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Ok next video:

http://www.ufoplaza.nl/~ganzegal/vid/azufo9feb.wmv

I have a suspicion what this is, but i don't want to spoil the challenge for u.
 
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I'm stumped... I get the feeling that the thing is quite small (a couple of feet), but I can't find anything concrete to base that feeling on.
 
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That last one looks like a toy.

Having probably watched over a thousand of hours of "UFO" videos, maybe even more, I have gotten pretty good at spotting many of the fakes and easily explained events. But I have seen video and film footage that is in some cases jaw dropping. Perhaps the most impressive that I've seen is about a minute of footage that was allegedly recovered from the KGB files; many of which were allegedly sold on the black market after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was film footage allegedly taken from the cockpit camera of a Mig. The jet is in hot pursuit of a large, black cylinder, seen clearly through the window at close range, directly in front of the jet for a moment, and accelerating out of view. This film had none of the typical qualities of a fake, but I have never seen an analysis or spotted this on the net. If it is a hoax it is by far one of the best that I've ever seen.

If anyone knows where to get this on the internet, please post a link.
 
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I thought that the last video was some kind of balloon(grouping), or an inflatable object.

Ive never seen the video u mentioned Ivan. Ill see if i can find it online.
 
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PIT2 said:
I thought that the last video was some kind of balloon(grouping), or an inflatable object.

Ive never seen the video u mentioned Ivan. Ill see if i can find it online.

Okay, thanks PIT2. I have this on tape but I don't have the means to transfer and post videos, as yet.

There is another one from the same collection: Looking out the side window of the Mig [I think we are still with the Migs but I would have to check] we see another Mig in the distance, and beyond that, a silver disk pacing the two jets. After passing behind some clouds, the disk then accelerates down and out of view. This is also a good, clear shot, at fairly close range.
 
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I found one video of a UFO taken from inside a cockpit(not MIG), but it is obvious that its another plane flying by:

http://www.menphis75.com/images/video_ufo/ufo%20from%20Cockpit.zip
btw the downloadspeed is horrendous.


I also have another UFO video, shot on may 12 2005 in Phoenix Arizona:
short version: http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixvideo051205.wmv
longer version: http://www.worldblend.net/worldblendbu/PHXLIGHTS/jeffwilles5-12-2005.wmv

An analysis of the video and other anomalous occurences in the area can be found here:
http://www.worldblend.net/worldblendbu/PHXLIGHTS.html
 
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Heres a video from Yogin City, (South?)Korea:

http://qlove.co.kr/ufo.wmv
 
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Heres a video from Varginha, Brazil

http://douglas.comp.com.br/downloads/varginha1996.mpg
 
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I found 3 video's of a case that happened in Australia.
I think they look very similar to what u described about the MIG and the cigarshaped UFO, Ivan.

http://www.ufo.com.br/videos-traillers/stabolito/frederick_valentich01.wmv
http://www.ufo.com.br/videos-traillers/stabolito/frederick_valentich02.wmv
http://www.ufo.com.br/videos-traillers/stabolito/frederick_valentich03.wmv

Source: http://www.ufo.com.br/videos/casoFrederick.htm
Unfortunately, its a reconstruction (with a superb cigarshaped UFO though) and they speak mostly spanish, except for the Australian pilots.

The best parts are:
Video 1: 4.30 till end.
Video 2: 0.00 till 1.30

Can u tell me if this looks anything like the mig-cockpit UFO?
 
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I have only recently seen verification of the Valentich case. Until now I wasn't sure if this event really took place or not, but, as claimed, it appears to be well documented.

Cylinder reports go back to at least the middle ages; not to mention Moses... :eek:
 
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