What is the value of these angles ?

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The discussion centers on understanding the angles formed by normal forces acting on a bar in two different figures. The initial confusion arises from the measurement of angles between the normal force and the horizontal direction. Clarification is provided that the angle in the first figure is α, while in the second figure, it is O. The importance of considering the sum of angles in triangles and straight lines is emphasized to resolve the confusion. The user expresses improved clarity on the topic after the explanations.
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i know that question is a little basic but i have no one to ask.

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for this image i think that the angle between the horizontal and the normal force that the semi-cylinder
exert on the bar is is α - 90°

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for this one i think that the angle between the horizontal and the normal forces that the cylinders exert on the bar is O - 90°

but my teacher says that is O and i can't figure why.

some one can explaimed why ? thanks.

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An angle is measured between two directions. You can't say "the angle of the normal force that the semi-cylinder
exert on the bar" and expect people to know what you're talking about because you only provided one direction - namely, the direction of the normal force. Are you measuring the angle between that force and the horizontal direction? If that's the case than the answer to the first picture that the angle is equal to α. Why can't you ask that question to your teacher?
 
dauto said:
An angle is measured between two directions. You can't say "the angle of the normal force that the semi-cylinder
exert on the bar" and expect people to know what you're talking about because you only provided one direction - namely, the direction of the normal force. Are you measuring the angle between that force and the horizontal direction? If that's the case than the answer to the first picture that the angle is equal to α. Why can't you ask that question to your teacher?

thanks.

i've edited the post as you say, i can't ask to my teacher because my exam is the next class.
 
There is no difference between the 2 figures in regard to the angle that the normal force makes with the horizontal. The angles of a triangle sum to 180 Degrees and angles on one side of a straight line also sum to 180 degrees. In your first figure, Try extending the horizontal line through D to your dashed line and examine the triangle so formed to see if that helps to determine the required angle of the normal force, using the 180 degree sum rules noted.
 
PhanthomJay said:
There is no difference between the 2 figures in regard to the angle that the normal force makes with the horizontal. The angles of a triangle sum to 180 Degrees and angles on one side of a straight line also sum to 180 degrees. In your first figure, Try extending the horizontal line through D to your dashed line and examine the triangle so formed to see if that helps to determine the required angle of the normal force, using the 180 degree sum rules noted.

Thanks

I did as you said and the first figure the angle is α and in the the second the angle is o

it is a little more clear to me now.
 
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