What is wrong with my derivation for the moment of inertia of a sphere?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the moment of inertia for a sphere, specifically addressing a participant's calculation that resulted in (3/5)MR². The scope includes theoretical derivation and mathematical reasoning related to the moment of inertia of both a sphere and a spherical shell.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant derived the moment of inertia for a sphere as (3/5)MR² using the method of summing infinitesimally thin spherical shells.
  • Another participant pointed out that the moment of inertia for a spherical shell is (2/3)MR², suggesting that this is a critical factor missing from the original derivation.
  • A third participant confirmed that the correct moment of inertia for a solid sphere is (2/5)MR², indicating that the initial method led to an incorrect result.
  • There is a repeated emphasis on the distinction between the moment of inertia for a sphere and that for a spherical shell, with some participants clarifying the definitions and formulas involved.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the correctness of the initial derivation. While some clarify the definitions and correct factors involved, there is no consensus on the original method's validity or the specific error in the derivation.

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Participants reference different formulas for the moment of inertia, indicating potential confusion over definitions and the application of the method used. The discussion does not resolve the specific mathematical steps leading to the incorrect result.

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Ok, so I thought about a derivation for the moment of inertia, but my answer comes out to (3/5)MR^2

Basically, what I did was I considered the sphere as a sum of infinitesimally thin spherical shells.

The moment of inertia for one shell is dI=(r^2)*dm

where dm=(M/V)*4*pi*r^2*dr

where V=(4/3)*pi*R^3

so the equation dI=3*pi*M*r^4*dr when simplified.

Integrating this from 0 to R (Summing up the spherical shells from the center to the edge of the big sphere) gives me (3/5)*M*R^2. What is wrong with this derivation? :(
 
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According to wikipedia, moment of inertia for a spherical shell is 2/3 M R^2 , not what you use.
 
It is actually (2/5)*MR^2 for a sphere. The method I used clearly gives the incorrect answer, which is why I'm asking to see if anyone can tell me where the fault is.
 
Nabeshin isn't talking about the sphere, but a spherical shell. As I just said in your identical thread,

"The moment of inertia of a thin shell is (2/3)MR^2, not MR^2, so your original dI should be (2/3)r^2 dm - there's your missing factor of 2/3. "
 
Mute said:
Nabeshin isn't talking about the sphere, but a spherical shell. As I just said in your identical thread,

"The moment of inertia of a thin shell is (2/3)MR^2, not MR^2, so your original dI should be (2/3)r^2 dm - there's your missing factor of 2/3. "

Thanks for spelling that out, apparently I wasn't clear enough.
 

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