What Makes the Balinese Alphabet Unique?

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The discussion centers around the uniqueness of the Balinese alphabet, particularly its poetic structure and phonetic characteristics. Participants explore the relationship between the alphabet and its representation of sounds and meanings, as well as comparisons to other alphabets and languages.

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  • One participant describes the Balinese alphabet as a poem, suggesting that the letters, when read aloud, convey a narrative meaning.
  • Multiple participants express confusion regarding how an alphabet can be considered a poem, questioning the mechanics behind this claim.
  • Another participant explains that the structure of the Balinese alphabet allows for the formation of words that reflect its poetic nature, citing "anacharaka" as an example.
  • There is a comparison made between the Balinese alphabet and the English alphabet song, noting that while the latter does not form words, the former does.
  • A participant discusses phonetic patterns in eastern and southern Asian languages, suggesting that consonants are typically followed by vowels, which may influence how the Balinese alphabet is structured.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of pronouncing consonant clusters in certain languages, with examples provided from Japanese adaptations of English words.
  • Anecdotal evidence is shared regarding the pluralization in Balinese, indicating a lack of adherence to adding an 's' for plurals among students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express confusion about the concept of an alphabet as a poem, indicating a lack of consensus on this idea. While some provide explanations and examples, others remain skeptical and seek clarification.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about phonetic structures in various languages are not fully explored, and the discussion includes anecdotal observations that may not represent broader linguistic trends.

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Individuals interested in linguistics, phonetics, or the cultural aspects of writing systems may find this discussion relevant.

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The Balinese alphabet perhaps the prettiest in the world. It is in the style of Gujarati and has the unique feature that the alphabet is a poem. The translation is

There were (two) emissaries.
They met in battle
Their valor was equal
They both fell dead
 
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I am unable to parse this.

How can an alphabet be a poem?
 
DaveC426913 said:
I am unable to parse this.

How can an alphabet be a poem?
Read the letters aloud in order and they form words with this meaning.
 
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It's easier because in eastern and southern Asian alphabets most of the letters are for a consonant followed by an "ah". The first line of the Balinese alphabet poem is five letters that form "anacharaka." [a-na-ca-ra-ka]. Indeed anacharaka is the name of the alphabet.

In English we have the alphabet song, same thing but it doesn't form words. Notice that we say the letter is "be" while in use it is actually "b", and so forth.

Most if not all eastern and southern Asian languages are like this.* They don't have isolated consonants. Usually every consonant is followed by a vowel. When Japan adopts an English word that ends in a consonant they tack on a vowel. Cardo, jazzu, banda, maido. These Asians have difficulty pronouncing words that have sequences of consonants, like "strength."

Japan now has words that end in "s" but this might be a later innovation. "Desu" is now pronounced dess.

The strangest thing is that in Bali I never could get my students to tack on an s to get a plural. Not even one time did they ever do that, no matter how I tried.


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*Maybe Han Chinese is different. I don't know what they do.
 

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