What must be true to prevent a ladder from slipping against a wall?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions necessary to prevent a ladder from slipping against a wall, focusing on the roles of friction between the ladder and both the wall and the floor.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore various options regarding the necessity of friction at the wall and floor, questioning whether one or both are required to maintain the ladder's stability.

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There are differing opinions on which conditions must be met to prevent slipping, with some participants suggesting that friction at the floor is essential, while others propose that high friction at the wall could suffice. The discussion is ongoing with no clear consensus reached.

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Participants are considering the implications of different friction coefficients and the effects of the ladder's weight and angle on its stability. Assumptions about the ladder's balance and the forces acting upon it are also being examined.

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1. A ladder leans up against a wall. If the ladder is not to slip, which one of the following must be true?
a.friction between the ladder and wall must not be zero
b.friction between the ladder and floor must not be zero
c. both a and b
d. either a orb
e. neither a or b


2. net force =0, net torque = 0



3. i think it should be b. Can someone concur or correct me?
 
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i believe you are correct and the answer is b. the ladder and floor must have friction or the ladder falls.

as for a the ladder is perfect in ballance and no forces are acting upon it the ladder would not slip and would stay up.
 
I think it would be d. I mean, if you let the friction coefficient at the wall approach infinity, mustnt it be enough to stop the ladder from sliding down, no matter the mass on the ladder or the leaning angle?
 
I don't think it can be d, since the ladder is not weightless, the weight applied on the frictionless floor will cause the ladder to come off from the wall and onto the floor.
 
Kurret said:
I think it would be d. I mean, if you let the friction coefficient at the wall approach infinity, mustnt it be enough to stop the ladder from sliding down, no matter the mass on the ladder or the leaning angle?

The frictional force at the wall is there because there is normal reaction N at the point of contact. If the frictional force at the floor is zero, then there is nothing to balance the N at the wall, and ladder would be pushed away from the wall just enough to make N zero, and then it would slide on the floor, as mentioned by DBXO at the bottom. So, there has to be frictional force at the floor.

The correct answer would be (b).

DBXO said:
I don't think it can be d, since the ladder is not weightless, the weight applied on the frictionless floor will cause the ladder to come off from the wall and onto the floor.
 

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