News What? Obama Actually talk about the Middle East with Arabs?

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The discussion centers on the complexities of perceptions surrounding Muslims and the American political landscape. It emphasizes the shared hopes and dreams of people across different faiths, highlighting the importance of communication and understanding between Americans and the Muslim world. The dialogue raises questions about the nature of conflict and the American two-party system, pondering what happens to societal narratives of division if peace is achieved. Participants reflect on the labels assigned to groups, suggesting that terms like "terrorists" and "freedom fighters" are subjective and can hinder meaningful dialogue. The conversation also touches on historical perspectives of resistance and the ethics of warfare, illustrating the nuanced views on conflict and the need for open communication. Overall, the thread advocates for empathy and understanding in bridging cultural divides.
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Part I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO_lLttxxrs
Part II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnNYNc7HSA
"I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries. ... And so what I want to communicate is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I've come to understand is that regardless of your faith -- and America is a country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers -- regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.

And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives. My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect."
What about protecting the American Two-Partisan System? If we achieve peace, what will we do with ourselves? Who will we conjure up to direct our hate towards?
 
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LowlyPion said:
What about protecting the American Two-Partisan System? If we achieve peace, what will we do with ourselves? Who will we conjure up to direct our hate towards?
Amway?
 
How dare he be palin around with terrorists!
 
Cyrus said:
How dare he be palin around with terrorists!
I was working as a training consultant for a pulp mill in Luke MD, and commented to a young engineer about some of the "political" talk I had heard among the crew in the powerhouse. He grinned and told me about a power-boiler operator who was reading the paper some time back and who was railing against Lesbian Tourists. The mill is situated near a pretty nice stretch of kayaking white-water and they get their share of outsiders, but anyway the engineer asked why he was so upset and it turned out that Lebanese Terrorists were hot items in the news.
 
Cyrus said:
How dare he be palin around with terrorists!

Our terrorists are their freedom fighters. It is silly not to talk with someone because of some label we put on them.
 
wildman said:
Our terrorists are their freedom fighters. It is silly not to talk with someone because of some label we put on them.
I'm sure the American colonists fighting the British regulars and their mercenaries were accused of worse because instead of lining up in rows and firing volleys at one another, they would resort to sheltering behind trees and stone walls. Dirty tactics! Fight fair!
 
Dirty tactics! Fight fair!
lol
you mean there are rules? talk, listen, learn.
I like the idea.
 
Please, there is a world of difference between shooting from behind a tree and shooting from behind the skirts of women.

Edit: bah, can't get the image right. Go to image 10 in the gallery.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-summers-cartgallery,0,5845995.photogallery

To pretend otherwise is ludicrous.
 
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The French resistance blew the hell out of Germans and civilians, they also sheltered amongst civilians as did the Partisans. It's actually a matter of perspective, although I'll give you running into a café with the express intention of blowing up civilians is definitely a faux pas in all the acknowledged, terror circles. I believe you can lose your membership to the Guerillatarians and your free subscription to what explosives monthly.
 
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