What should be molten Lead Fluoride or Crayolite Contained In? (Best Crucible)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of a suitable crucible for experiments involving molten Lead Fluoride and Crayolite in an electric muffle furnace. Participants explore various materials for crucibles, considering their melting points and compatibility with the substances being used.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that platinum crucibles are too expensive and questions the suitability of alumina crucibles.
  • Another participant proposes graphite as a potential alternative, noting that alumina theoretically has a higher melting point than both cryolite and Lead Fluoride, but emphasizes the importance of the maximum process temperature.
  • A participant expresses interest in synthesizing Corundum Crystals and mentions a maximum operating temperature below 1200 Celsius, inquiring about the use of zirconia crucibles.
  • There is a question about whether cryolite can dissolve zirconia or graphite as it does with alumina, with a request for phase diagrams that are not readily available.
  • One participant admits to not having experience with cryolite and expresses a need to research its compatibility with the proposed crucible materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best crucible material, with multiple competing views regarding the suitability of graphite, alumina, and zirconia. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the compatibility of these materials with cryolite.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of available phase diagrams and the uncertainty regarding the compatibility of cryolite with different crucible materials.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and practitioners interested in materials science, particularly those working with high-temperature processes and the synthesis of specific crystal structures.

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Hello,

I am willing to do some experiments with molten Lead Fluoride and Crayolite in an electric muffle furnace, but I am not sure what type of crucible to use? Platinum Crucibles are way too expensive and I am assuming Alumina Crucible is not suitable... so, are there any other alternatives?

Thank You.
 
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Have you tried graphite?

Alumina would work in theory, as it has a higher melting point than either cryolite or PbF2, but then again it depends on your maximum process temperature and what you're trying to accomplish.
 
Graphite seems like a good alternative... Thanks.

I am trying to synthesize Corundum Crystals. :)

This is a similar experiment:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022024874904011

My maximum operating temperature will be below 1200 celsius.

How about a Zirconia Crucible ?

Is cryolite able to dissolve Zirconia / Graphite like it does with Alumina? I couldn't find any phase diagrams online...

Thanks again. I highly appreciate your contributions.
 
This is why I like replying to threads - I always learn something!

I've never actually worked with cryolite, and hadn't looked into its usefulness. Not sure of it's compatibility with those materials and would have to research it myself.
 

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