What should I know before applying to university?

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The discussion revolves around the considerations and etiquette involved in applying to universities, particularly for students in community college aiming to transfer to institutions for mechanical engineering. Topics include application strategies, financial implications, essay writing skills, and the requirements for degree completion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about applying to multiple universities without the intention of attending immediately, questioning the value of such applications.
  • Another participant suggests that applying to several schools is common practice, as it allows students to choose the best fit for their educational goals.
  • There are inquiries about the specific rules regarding the number of semesters required at a college to obtain a degree, with one participant noting that these details are typically available on university websites.
  • Financial considerations are highlighted, with advice to explore scholarship opportunities and financial aid options before dismissing schools as unaffordable.
  • Concerns about essay writing skills are raised, with one participant expressing anxiety about their ability to write compelling application essays and seeking advice on improvement.
  • Suggestions are made for taking writing classes to enhance essay writing skills, emphasizing the importance of feedback and practice.
  • Another participant reflects on their experience in an English composition class, noting its helpfulness in developing writing skills for applications.

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Participants express varying opinions on the necessity and timing of university applications, with some advocating for early applications while others question their practicality. There is no consensus on the best approach to application etiquette or the importance of essay writing skills.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the variability in university policies regarding degree requirements and the transferability of credits, indicating that these factors can differ significantly between institutions.

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I'm wondering what kind of etiquette one should follow when applying to university. Right now I'm in CC getting all of my calculus, diff eq, and linear algebra done. That way I can apply to OSU (Oklahoma) for mechanical engineering. Next semester I'm taking Calc1 then spring I'll be taking Calc2. Currently I have a 4.0 and I am going to do everything I can to keep that GPA as long as I can. I was thinking about applying to OSU after next springs semester though just to see if i get in. If not, I was thinking about applying to quite a few other places, Texas Tech to name one. I don't know if this is frowned upon though, because if I get accepted, I won't have money to go there without a lot of scholarship money. So it will be a wasted acceptence for them. I will be financially stable enough in 2 years though, whenever I intend on transferring. I also don't know what kind of rules there are to how many semesters you have to spend at a college to get a degree through them.
Could anyone shed some light on the subject, or give me some advice?
Thanks!
 
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462chevelle said:
I also don't know what kind of rules there are to how many semesters you have to spend at a college to get a degree through them.

Colleges and universities usually have their degree requirements (including conditions like this) on their web sites somewhere. I think the college where I work is fairly typical. We require about 120 semester hours total for a bachelor's degree. Of these, 30 of the last 60 must be completed here, basically one year's worth of work.
 
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You apply to several different schools in the hope that you get accepted to all of them and can choose to pick the one which best fits your educational goals. However, unless you are an exceptional candidate, you probably won't get accepted to all the schools you apply to. College admissions officers understand that students will apply to several different schools and wind up choosing only one. If you apply to only one school and get turned down, you will probably have to wait at least one semester before you can apply to another school, since most schools set a deadline for applications to be submitted.

Do your homework before applying to a school. If you want a mechanical engineering degree, for example, look at several different schools which offer such a program. All schools will tell you which courses you are required to take to qualify for a degree. The schools can also tell you which of your credits will transfer. (Schools are not required to accept credits from another institution, which is why you want to get this question answered before you go to the trouble of filling out an application) Remember, this is a big financial investment, so you want to spend some time on deciding which institutions you want to apply to.

At the early stages, the financial matters should be looked at, but even though you may think a certain school is unaffordable, don't automatically exclude it. Most institutions have people on staff who can help you with finding scholarships or other financial means to meet tuition or expenses; this is why you want to talk to the admissions staff rather than just fill out an application. Then, if things still don't work out financially, you move on to another choice on your list which might be more affordable.

The bigger schools know that more prospective students apply to attend than they have space for: that's what waiting lists were created for.
 
What I don't understand is why you want to apply to schools if you don't intend to go there if accepted, at least not right away. This is a lot of work - what do you get out of it by doing it now, as opposed to when you are ready to attend?
 
Mostly because of my confidence in essay writing. I'm not very good at the stuff you have to fluff up those kind of essays with. Whenever i write stuff like that and I have someone proofread it, they laugh at me and help me add more descriptive stuff. I'm more quick and to the point if I'm trying to sell myself, if you want to call it that. I'm just really nervous I guess. I feel like if I apply and don't get accepted i need to open up to more options, and if I had more time to research those options I would be more comfortable. I have a kid and a girlfriend to take care of and currently my girlfriend doesn't work. So basically I'm going to school full time, working full time, with a kid and pre planning a year ahead is a must for me. If I had to move out of state that is a very big deal.
 
If you're trying to improve your essay writing, I think you'd be much better off by taking a class in it - or at least a class with a large writing component. You'll write more in a class than in an application or two, and more importantly, you'll get feedback so you can improve. That way, when you really are ready to go, your application will be stronger.
 
Writing is a skill where one gets better thru constant practice, and you need this skill for more than writing an essay for a college application. When you ask someone to proofread your writing, also ask their opinion about the style or the organization of the piece. This kind of feedback can go a long way to help you improve your writing. If you are shy about writing, this could be a hindrance not only to your future academic career, but also eventually your professional one as well. Writing clear and readable reports is a key aspect to just about any professional career.
 
I took English Comp 1 last semester and it was really helpful for essay writing. I guess I need to think back to that class. I spent an awful lot of time editing and proofreading those essays. I suppose essays for applications should be no different. I'm just one of those writers that can see a 1 page paper and say the same thing in half the words, although i don't think that is a good habit to have. I'm so used to reading useless technical information at work that is a page long that should be 2 sentences long. I must have conditioned myself to avoid all the fluff when I'm making my rough draft.
 

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