What to ask the lecturer before taking his course?

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The discussion revolves around what questions a student should ask a lecturer before taking a course, particularly in the context of preparing for subjects like Electricity and Magnetism. Participants explore the importance of prerequisites, personal experiences, and the reliability of lecturers' advice.

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  • Some participants suggest that students should ask lecturers about course preparation to ensure success.
  • Others argue that having recent credit in prerequisites is generally sufficient, but express that this may not always guarantee success in advanced courses like Electricity and Magnetism.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about successfully navigating a philosophy course through direct engagement with the lecturer, suggesting that ambition can lead to unexpected opportunities.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the reliability of lecturers, stating that it can be difficult to discern who provides truthful advice.
  • There is a viewpoint that emphasizes the necessity of mastering prerequisite material before attempting to learn new concepts, with a caution that not all prerequisite content may be relevant to the new subject.

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Participants generally do not reach a consensus. There are competing views on the necessity and effectiveness of asking lecturers for guidance, as well as differing opinions on the sufficiency of prerequisites for success in advanced courses.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in their own understanding of prerequisites, suggesting that personal comfort with the material is crucial for success. There is also mention of the potential irrelevance of certain prerequisite topics to the new course material.

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If a student wanted to do well for a course, he should ask the lecturer before hand about the course and prepare for it before the semester. What sort of questions should the student ask the lecturer?
 
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The student usually does not need to ask the "lecturer" anything about how to prepare for the course. The student needs to have (hopefully recent) credit in the prerequisites for the course. If the student is in doubt after being informed on the prerequisites, then the student could ask the "lecturer" of the intended course.

My own opinion about something like fundamental physics of Electricity & Magnetism is that merely having passed your Calc II course might not be enough to perform well in this E&M course. Having more mathematical applied maturity with the Calc II and analytical geometry are very very useful in ensuring good success and good learning. You would believe that the prerequisite courses are enough - but not always if you are weak at solving analytic geometry and calculus problems, or if you are still inexperienced doing so. For me, E&M at that level was a struggle. I could have done better if I would have repeated it, since I also restudied Calc II. In short, prerequisite course credit alone is not always enough.

It is still up to you if you want to discuss how to succeed in the course with the "lecturer" (I assume you mean "instructor" or "professor").
 
When I decided to ditch engineering and pursue English, a friend of mine alerted me to a course that was being offered to senior and graduate students in philosophy. The course was being offered by the head of the department, and it was intended to be a critical review of his book-in-process on the subject of meta-ethics. I approached Dr. Skorpen and asked if I could audit his course, and he asked if I could give him 15 minutes of my time during lunch. We talked for over 3 hours, and I got to take his course for full credit, and never had to take a 10x course in philosophy. I fell right into a double-major in English Lit and Philosophy. Ability and ambition can do a lot for you, if you're ready to push.
 
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I would never ask the lecturer. Bad ones lie and good ones tell the true. You just have no way of telling who's who.
 
symbolipoint said:
The student usually does not need to ask the "lecturer" anything about how to prepare for the course. The student needs to have (hopefully recent) credit in the prerequisites for the course. If the student is in doubt after being informed on the prerequisites, then the student could ask the "lecturer" of the intended course.

My own opinion about something like fundamental physics of Electricity & Magnetism is that merely having passed your Calc II course might not be enough to perform well in this E&M course. Having more mathematical applied maturity with the Calc II and analytical geometry are very very useful in ensuring good success and good learning. You would believe that the prerequisite courses are enough - but not always if you are weak at solving analytic geometry and calculus problems, or if you are still inexperienced doing so. For me, E&M at that level was a struggle. I could have done better if I would have repeated it, since I also restudied Calc II. In short, prerequisite course credit alone is not always enough.

It is still up to you if you want to discuss how to succeed in the course with the "lecturer" (I assume you mean "instructor" or "professor").

JasonRox said:
I would never ask the lecturer. Bad ones lie and good ones tell the true. You just have no way of telling who's who.

Experience tells me that doing the subject beforehand is essential for success, unless if you have nailed the prereqs which I clearly haven't.
 
pivoxa15 said:
Experience tells me that doing the subject beforehand is essential for success, unless if you have nailed the prereqs which I clearly haven't.

You admit yourself that you are not comfortable with the pre-requisites, so surely that tells you what to prepare for before the class! You should make sure you know all you should know before you try and learn anything new.
 
cristo said:
You admit yourself that you are not comfortable with the pre-requisites, so surely that tells you what to prepare for before the class! You should make sure you know all you should know before you try and learn anything new.

I use to think that way but when I told it to an academic, he said make sure it's relevant. In other words make sure the basic material is relevant to the subject. Not everything in the prereq subject is relevant to the existing subject. i.e Algebra is a prereq for algebraic topology. But 1/3 of the contents in my algebra course was on rings which is irrelevant to a basic course in algebraic topology.
 

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